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I am still learning and ran into a problem. Trying a Patsy Cline tune (I Fall to Pieces) and there is a style for Patsy that works pretty well but there is a step down that goes E to Eb to D that is pretty important. If I put in E Eb D D in the bar it seems to work sometimes but sometimes not. Can you just regenerate that one bar till you get it right or is there a way to force it to play the chords?
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You can not regenerate parts of tracks in BiaB, it's all or nothing. However you can in ReaBand. Realband has been included in the last few versions of BiaB so you should have it.
I do not use Realband but someone who does will be along soon and show you how it is accomplished.
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If I put in E Eb D D in the bar it seems to work sometimes but sometimes not. Can you just regenerate that one bar till you get it right or is there a way to force it to play the chords? Yes, this is a often requested addition to BIAB, but till then RB will do this nicely. Run "multiriffs" over the select track and selected bars in RB and you will see every option available in a realtrack. Or try this in BIAB.... You can "freeze" all the tracks which sound good and regenerate only the rhythm track or bass track. Try putting in the bass or root notes as /chords to force the transition. This may get you what you want - Then Freeze the track so it don't change.
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Hi pedwards2932,
Yes you can regenerate one bar in Real Band. I am new here also so I am just learning how to use Real Band myself.
To do this is not very hard to learn to do. Real Band will not provide an unlimited number of options to change the measure.
It may however do what you need done. I can show you how to do this and if you do not have Real Band or just can not figure it out I may be able to do it for you.
I need more information. What Real Track are you using now and what style and so on. Also I have no idea what time zone you live in. I live in Miami Florida, so I am around from noon EST until around midnight most day.
I just tried this regeneration function a few days ago. I will go see if I can find the instructions for how to do it and edit this post with the info.
Cheers,
Billy
Edit: First I am using Windows 7. Are you on a windows machine or Mac? On My machine I need to run Real Band as the admin. Open Real Band and load the file you saved for the song. High lite the measure in question. Right click, that opens a window, put your mouse on generate, that opens another window, select multi riff and that will will open a window with seven possible selections for a new riff.
If you know how to use a DAW this will seem pretty easy, if you do not know how to use a DAW this may seem a bit arcane. Just yell and we will help you.
There are other ways to get this done but require other software and a lot of experience.
Hope this helps.
Last edited by Planobilly; 07/23/15 04:17 AM.
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I have the BIAB 2015 MegaPak and it came with Real Band. I have just been incorporating Real Tracks into BIAB and using styles so I think I need to investigate Real Band a bit closer. I have been watching the videos on creating backing tracks and most of them that I have seen use BIAB and then add Real Tracks. I thought when I was working with it last night that it seemed too difficult to get a specific chord change. When I used a Real Track guitar strum it seemed to follow the change better. I am on a windows machine and have used Cakewalk for years so your instructions are clear, I'll try them tonight.
Thanks for the help.
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Cool pedwards2932 ,
Be aware of the Bold double bar line. The next part of the song may change strumming patterns or even notes...well I am not super clear on just how all that works yet...give me a few days and I will have it figured out.
The slow load issue...I don't know all the causes relating to that. I find BB very slow to render a track and Real Band takes a very long time to load up a song on my machine.
Sonar is very fast to do both...but I run Sonar on the SSD and BB and RB on a Raid0 drive (sata 7200 RPM WD enterprize) not a real fast drive to begin with. The striping helps but SSD is the bomb. When I get a bit of extra cash I will stripe two SSDs. Should be a rocket ship then.
Billy
Edit: I have found some strange notes being produced with Real Tracks guitar parts here and there...may be because I just don't know what I am doing yet.
Last edited by Planobilly; 07/23/15 12:26 PM.
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I tried to work with Real Band first and I have another learning curve to get over.....there doesn't seem to be any video tutorials on it like there are with BIAB. I was able to create the song in BIAB and use a style that had Real Tracks and it really sounds pretty good. It would do the E - Eb - D transition with no problems.
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There are some videos but......let me look...I got CRS...lol
OK found it.. just type in Real Band tutorials in the search site window top right.
Billy
Last edited by Planobilly; 07/23/15 06:13 PM.
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Thanks for that I got what I needed from the video. I was able to create "I Fall to Pieces" in RB and it sounds pretty good. I am not sure it sounded any better than the one I did in BIAB because I used real tracks for it. I found that if I used the Patsy style there was something in the style that was giving me problems on the E Eb D step down. As soon as I picked a different style it worked fine. It looks like the with Real Band it would be pretty easy for me to add my own embellishments by just recording them in.....also looks like it is easier to render to mp3 which is what I am going to use for gigs.
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