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Firstly, I am on a very steep learning curve with BAIB and even steeper with RealBand.
But my question relates to BiaB 2015. I have seen from various screenshots that the layout is somewhat different to my current 2013 version, but what else has changed that may make the process easier.
So, is it worth the extra outlay to upgrade to to Version 2015?
Also does the upgrade also update RealBand ?
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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Hi ovation99, If you go to the below url... http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm... and scroll about 1/3 of the way down the page, you'll find various tabs that compare the different versions of BIAB. Simply click on these.  I personally find the new interface easier to use that the older one (like on 2013). Realband 2015 is included with BIAB 2015 at no extra charge. When you say that you're on a steep learning curve with BIAB, what is about the program that challenges you? We might be able to help. Or maybe the videos at the following link can help.... http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm... try starting with those in the "Beginners" section. All the best, Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Hi Noel,
Thanks for the swift response.
I have completed a couple of songs, which sound pretty good to me anyway and I have picked up a lot of info from this forum, which has proved to be a lot quicker than wading through the manual (over 600 pages !!!!)
I think part of the problem is the terminology used or maybe me being dumb.
One of the many things that just does not work out for me is Repeats/Codas etc. I end up laying out the whole song in one chorus.
I have looked at the videos and the tips on here, but just can't seem to get it to work.
For instance, a song with this layout.
Bars 1-4 Intro
Bars 5-52 Whole song excluding Repeat of last line (4 Bars) and Ending (2 Bars)
So, what I want to achieve is this:
Play Bars 1-52 then Bars 21-56 + Ending
I hope you can understand this and I think I'll wait for the rest of the day for other comments on the upgrade question, but I would think I will end up going for it.
Thanks for your patience Noel
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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I would suggest purchasing the BIAB "printed" manual ($15), it is well laid out. I find the PDF ver (same) but reading it on a screen; learning the program difficult.
DE
Win 10, 64 bit, love my Lenovo T420, BIAB 2019 (613), RB 2019 (2)
Short term memory is getting shorter.
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Hi DE,
Purchasing the manual would be a good idea, BUT I live in the UK and postage for a 600 page manual would not be cost effective.
I think I will scan through it and print off the sections as and when I need them.
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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The PDF user manual is text searchable, so it is not difficult to open the file and hit CTRL-F to find keywords.
You can also easily cut/paste from the PDF into a Word document (for example), if you want to just preserve just the parts you are interested in for future reference.
I always liked having the printed manual, because generally I would read through it when I went to bed at night, but when I'm on the PC, I almost exclusively use the PDF manual, and through the use of CTRL-F, or the index, or the table of contents, have been able to find what I'm looking for.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com
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I put all of my PDF manuals on my color Nook, that way I can have the manual and the program open at the same time. So if you have a Nook, Kindle or any other kind of tablet you might want to try it.
Also don't forget about the program's help button!
I'm with John as I like a printed manual also but they seem to be a thing of the past!
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
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Jford,
I like your idea about cutting and pasting into a new document. Sort of your own personalised manual. Might give that ago.
MarioD,
That's also a useful idea, but as I have 2 monitors I can extend the manual over to the second screen.
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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OK I took the plunge and am now in the process of downloading, so will look forward to playing with the latest features and tracks.
In the meantime, I wonder if anyone has a guide to my OP?
"For instance, a song with this layout.
Bars 1-4 Intro
Bars 5-52 Whole song excluding Repeat of last line (4 Bars) and Ending (2 Bars)
So, what I want to achieve is this:
Play Bars 1-52 then Bars 21-56 + Ending"
Thanks for looking.
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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Does this show you how to do it? Repeats and Codas Actually there are several version of these repeats  D.C. al fine - repeat from beginning up to the word fine. D.C. al coda - repeat the music from the beginning ("Capo"), and to continue playing until one reaches the first coda D.S. al Coda - return to a spot earlier in the score that's marked by the symbol In fact, like most of us I tend to just expand the entire song. But I do understand why one would like to use these conventions. They should work.
Last edited by jazzmandan; 07/29/15 01:39 PM.
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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Thanks Jazzmandan,
I obviously need to delve into this with a lot more conviction !
I have upgraded to 2015, but the details of the upgrade indicate that here are additional Realtracks included with the upgrade (206-227) but I don't seem to have them.
Is this an advertising trick to get you buy more?
I downloaded all the files from my order confirmation.
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017
Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10
Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302,
M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49.
Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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Which package did you purchase? That determines which add-ons (styles, RealTracks, RealDrums, etc) you get. This web page shows what is available in each package.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com
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