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Hi .
HELP PLEASE !! Which BiaB package makes jazz play-alongs, piano / bass / drums trio, with acoustic rhythm guitar [sometimes] for 4/4, 3/4 [therefore 6/8 & 12/8], maybe 5/4.... swing, Latin, bossa ??? I'd like the end result to be like the stuff put out by Learn Jazz Standards..... that sort of thing. Easy to understand instructions, please, as I am an oldie !! Cheers.
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Get as much as you can afford, preferably the "UltraPlusPAK" http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.htmAnd don't forget the big end of year sale is coming soon. Oh, and welcome to the forum 
Dan, BIAB2024, SoundCloud Win11, i7(12thGen), 32GB, 1TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD), 2TB Libraries, 1 TB(WD-Black), 2TB SSD(M.2 NVMe SSD)Data, Motu Audio Express, Keystation 61, SL88 Studio, Reaper
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I agree.
Mega at minimum, Everything or UltraPlus even better, but almost all users have concurred; buying the most you can initially keeps any upgrade costs minimal. The initial investment pays for itself down the road.
Some choose a more prudent 'buy bare minimum and get the Realtracks I want' path, and pay for it down the road.
One thing I would stress; I don't recommend looking at Realtracks and trying to buy only what sounds like you would use. I have used MANY Realtracks that initially I never thought I would. .. bluegrass fiddle? Why would I need that? (it has made its way onto a couple tunes that were NOT bluegrass).
The more you have to tinker with, the more you will enjoy it, and don't assume a certain Realtrack won't work in a given situation.
Another example (more obvious maybe) is sax. A 'Hip-Hop' sax solo can work very well in another genre, etc.
The more you have, the more fun/options you'll have, in my experience
Make your sound your own!
.. I do not work here, but the benefits are still awesome
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Yup...what THEY said.
Buy as far up the food chain as you can afford. It's one thing you will likely not regret.
The higher you can afford to go, the more real tracks you have to play with and that gives you amazing versatility when writing new tunes.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Hi AxeSax,
Welcome.
One way you might be able to approach your purchase is to use the 30 day money-back guarantee that PG Music give.
This would need to be confirmed through sales because I'm only a user... simply drop them an email and ask. As I see it, you could buy one of the cheaper deals and give it a test run. If you think the program has merit, and it's within 30 days of your purchase, I suspect that PG Music would fully refund the cost of your initial purchase if you choose to invest in a more comprehensive version of the program. Most people on the forums here use either the UltraPlusPak or the EverythingPak.
In 2006, I started out with the MegaPak. When the first sale came around, though, I upgraded to the UltraPlusPak because it's the cheapest deal that has everything. I've been upgrading every year since then to maintain every new development that occurs. It's a brilliant program.
Hope this information helps,
Noel
MY SONGS...Audiophile BIAB 2024
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Thanks for the advice. The thing is, though, I only want a small jazz combo set up. I would not want all the pop, country, funk, gypsy jazz, folk etc things at all. I appreciate having it all at your fingertips means not wanting anything extra for the future - in my case I've been there, done that, and am content with the small jazz combo fakery. The steep learning curve has started! My next problems will start when I get what ever package[s] are necessary...exciting times. Cheers.
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Thanks for the advice. The thing is, though, I only want a small jazz combo set up. I would not want all the pop, country, funk, gypsy jazz, folk etc things at all. I appreciate having it all at your fingertips means not wanting anything extra for the future - in my case I've been there, done that, and am content with the small jazz combo fakery. The steep learning curve has started! My next problems will start when I get what ever package[s] are necessary...exciting times. Cheers. OK so my revised suggestion is to get the PRO package for $129. I think it will have much of what you want. It will help you get started with jazz and it gives you a fair number of real tracks to play with. Real Tracks are freaking amazing. 10,000% better than using straight midi. http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.packages.pro.htm#procombosThere are a number of jazz combo's and styles there that use 200 real tracks. In addition, you get 400 midi styles to play with. Not all, but a large number of those should be jazz styles. Here's the thing, if you decide it's not enough, you can always call PG and move up to the next package. I made a mistake one year and bought the wrong package by mistake. It was not what I really wanted and needed. When I realized I had the wrong product, I called PG and they simply asked me to pay the difference and they would get the correct one to me. They have the best customer service hands down, of all the companies I deal with regarding music related items. Start with the Pro package and get your feet wet, and see if that does the job. I'll bet it will.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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They have the best customer service hands down, of all the companies I deal with This.
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Thanks for this idea, which I'll now buy. I appreciate all the posts and for all of your time in replying - that goes for all of you. Keep the music coming.
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All good advice but just as an FYI and as mentioned by Jazzmandan:
PG USUALLY comes up with the new BIAB version in early to mid December (last year for first time -they put it on sale in late November) and there new version sale prices are always VERY GOOD!
If you by Pro now and get started and like as much as we think you will - then a simple call to PG when the new version DOES go on sale will probably get you a very good deal on cross-grade to a Mega, Ultra or Everything pak.
good luck and enjoy
Larry
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