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#112565 - 04/25/11 01:22 AM Cubase LE 5
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Any one have and use this program. It came free/included with piece of hardware I bought. I don't like to install things I won't use. Wondering if I'm missing out on anything by not installing it. Anyone have good reasons to install this program? Does it have usefull features not available in Power Tracks, Audacity, NTrack, etcc...?
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#112566 - 04/25/11 07:47 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Tobias]
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Tons of features ,hard to learn. I have an older version and would suggest using if you are an extreme techie otherwise too difficult .

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#112567 - 04/25/11 08:34 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Tobias]
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IMO most softwares that come included with things like soundcards, etc. and have suffixes such as "LE" appended to them are worth exactly what you paid for them.

Found that out the hard way, I did.

Cubase, especially, while having a rather large following, is not a very intuitive platform IMHO, hard to learn, hard to set up, hard to keep running from day to day IME.

Realband or PT beats it hands down.


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#112568 - 04/25/11 09:33 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Mac]
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IMO most softwares that come included with things like soundcards, etc. and have suffixes such as "LE" appended to them are worth exactly what you paid for them.

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I agree in general with one particular exception: Amplitube LE, which has been supplied with many different programs/hardware over the years, is completely functional and serves it's purpose quite well.

If you want to get the flavor and feel of amplifier simulation, with very servicable results and playability, Amplitube LE, well 'Rocks!'.

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#112569 - 04/25/11 10:44 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Mac]
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IMO most softwares that come included with things like soundcards, etc. and have suffixes such as "LE" appended to them are worth exactly what you paid for them.

Found that out the hard way, I did.

Cubase, especially, while having a rather large following, is not a very intuitive platform IMHO, hard to learn, hard to set up, hard to keep running from day to day IME.

Realband or PT beats it hands down.


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I don't agree with you here. The LE-version of Cubase is a very powerful DAW, even if it doesn't have all the features C5 has. If you decide to invest in an interface to improve your recordings and you get a powerful DAW for free to go with it, why wouldn't you usde it? It saves you money on a DAW (if you don't have one already) and you get a free chance to try out the program. Chances are you won't run into the restrictions at all, at least not for the first year or two. I know a lot of people on a homerecording forum that use Cubase LE4 that haven't felt the need to upgrade to the full version.

I use Cubase 5.5 and am completely satisfied with that DAW. For me Cubase works far more intuitive than PTPA or RB. Also all the different ways of routing signals, the ability to work with DAW-controllers and the powerfull tools available (and the GUI) makes Cubase far more usable for me than the other DAWs mentioned.

Having said that, the coice of a DAW is however personal. A DAW must meed your needs and you must be comfortable with the workflow. Most if not all DAWs on the market nowadays are capable of recording a hit record. After all; it isn'ty the program, it's the person behind it who makes the difference.
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#112570 - 04/25/11 12:28 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Mike sings]
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Nonesense. Everybody knows that Sonar PE rocks

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#112571 - 04/25/11 02:42 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: MikeK]
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I have it installed and piddled with it when I installed it. Other then that, it has sat on my desktop. No need to reinvent the wheel when recording, PG software still shines

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#112572 - 04/25/11 09:19 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Tobias]
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Thanks for you opinions. I think I'll leave it on the shelf for now. Perhaps if I find I need some feature I don't already have in PTPA, Audacity, or NTrack I'll google it to see if it has what I'm looking for and if it's worth installing then.
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#112573 - 04/25/11 09:26 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Tobias]
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Very sensible decision.
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#112574 - 04/26/11 08:53 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Matt Finley]
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I was given Cubase LE4 with a guitar pedal I bought as a 'freebie'.

Here is my advice: Make a backup disk image before you try to install it if you decide to do so.

Why?

I was curious and started the installation. The first thing it did was install the copy protection, what it called a "software dongle". The installation stalled and locked up my computer - frozen solid.

So I restart, and during the boot up process, as Windows is loading, it asks me to complete the installation - same results - frozen solid.

Third time, same thing.

Couldn't get Windows to finish loading so System Restore was out of the question. I guess I could have tried booting in the safe mode, but I made a complete Norton Ghost image before installing the software (something I always do before installing anything). So I restored the HD to it's pre-installation condition and tossed the CD in the trash.

Why did they put copy protection on something they are giving away for free? I have no idea.

I've been having problems with my favorite sequencer, Master Tracks Pro. Ever since GVox bought it there have been serious bugs in the software that haven't been addressed for years. So I was curious to see if Cubase would fill my needs. If I liked LE4 I would have bought the regular edition. Unfortunately for Cubase, I didn't get to try it, so they have no chance of selling me the full edition.

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#112575 - 04/27/11 04:45 AM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Notes Norton]
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I have cubase 5 and though I only use and understand the basic features of it I like it a lot. The older version vst of cubase going back maybe 7 years ago was hard to understand but not the modern day versions. The GUI on cubase in my opinion is well ahead of realband, little things like the mixer in realband with its little fiddly knobs to turn, is well behind cubase with its nice layout a dream to work with. If I was you Tobias I'd at least load it up on a machine and see what you think, maybe you will like it a lot.

That said there are things in realband that cubase can't do like the generation of realtrakcs etc so I use both, but always finish up importing everything into cubase.

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#112576 - 04/27/11 12:25 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: Notes Norton]
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I use Cubase Le4, which was packaged with my Zoomr16. It does have a learning curve to it but it is worth learning it. Very powerful. I hope this helps. If you have any questions private message me and I will try to help you out. I hope this helps!

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#112577 - 04/27/11 02:19 PM Re: Cubase LE 5 [Re: PgFantastic]
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I received a copy of Steinberg Cubase LE with my TASCAM US-224 I/O and control surface. It appears to be fully featured apart from having only one level of Undo, which is remedied by saving takes (and taking lots of notes). I was intimidated by it for a while, but it offers full automation, a complete set of effects and plug-ins, MIDI and WAV editing, and allows the use of sound fonts, to name the highlights. There was no copy protection, and the TASCAM itself is the dongle, so there were no issues with installation.

Imagine my surprise when I later got a copy of Nuendo, Cubie's big brudda, and found the interface to be virtually identical. Cut your teeth on Real Band or whatever you like, but when you need more, give Cubase another look.

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