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#69412 - 04/09/10 03:30 PM Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff
rubberball103 Offline
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I'd like the left side of the track in the tracks window to be smaller, or sizeable. At my resolution it takes up 1/3 of the window. i don't really need the instrument icon and some of the data is redundant. I'd rather use the space to see more bars. I know you can zoom out to see more bars, but then they get real small. Also, since the cool new mixer has the level meters you could lose them from the tracks window.

Just my 2 cents.
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#69413 - 04/09/10 06:21 PM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: rubberball103]
stratos Offline
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+1
I have asked for this I guess 3 times. so Im not the only one anymore.
And also scroll with the arrow keys and not the mouse could be nice.
The same for Real Band .
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#69414 - 04/09/10 07:04 PM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: stratos]
rharv Offline
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It would be nice if everything but the numbers were 'collapsable'. Called up in the Tracks window when needed (including VU's) and collapsed (hidden) when not needed. I'd like it both ways.
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#69415 - 01/28/11 06:46 PM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: rharv]
stratos Offline
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May I say Bump. Thanks

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#69416 - 04/29/11 03:24 PM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: stratos]
rockstar_not Offline
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+ 0.5

Here's why: I like having VU meters on each track, but they could be a little tiny vertical on the right end versus a horizontal space-eating bar. Also, +100 to the collapsible anything idea. Hide what you don't need, when you don't need it.

Reference Tracktion 3's main window for one way to get this done and lose the need for a mixer altogether. http://www.mackie.com/home/showimage.html?u=/products/tracktion3/images/T3-bigscreen-popup.jpg

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#69417 - 05/03/11 11:36 AM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: rubberball103]
Ian Fraser Offline
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Here's a thought. Use the Classics Track Window.

If you only want minimum information it works well. I use it all the time and seldom open the graphic track window. It's my approach to using RB as well. I don't need the fancy stuff. Other features are available through the mixer window and right clicks.

Give it a shot - Ian
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#69418 - 06/09/11 02:24 PM Re: Tracks window - more bars, less other stuff [Re: Ian Fraser]
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Ian, with all due respect, the point of the 'fancy' stuff is that one doesn't have to go to different windows with unnecessary mouse clicks to shrink windows, open other windows, etc. No amount of opening and closing windows actually gets one to making music faster. It's wasted motions and movements. Digging through a virtual 'pile' of windows to get to the right one also is wasted movement, time, etc.

If you take a look at the image link I posted you'll see a single screen that gives access to all 'fundamental' items used to record and mix music. Fully collapsible as the OP suggests.

Once you use something like this, the thought of having independent windows for different tasks is akin to recalling a bad smell.

I'm completely serious about this. There's no need to have a mixer 'window' that you have to go launch and use independently.

A context sensitive GUI is VERY handy to getting music made. It messes with your brain in a very good way. The only downside, is that once you have made the connections in your brain that when you click on something that has minimal visual detail and see the details of that element ON THE SAME SCREEN, without having to navigate somewhere else, you begin to think that all software should work this way. It doesn't really even require a large monitor.

A track is a track. What is contained in a track? What the input happens to be; midi or audio. The notes or waveforms already recorded. The sound source (if it's midi) and effects. The levels that the track is playing. The routing of that track to various bus and other outputs.

If you have an efficient graphical way of showing all of those elements - at least in some visual context, then you see an entire landscape of that track all at once. If you want to see detail for any one of those elements listed, you click on it and there it is in the SAME window, at the bottom of the screen, without navigating away from the landscape.

Two DAW programs work with this general visual context, one more so than the other. Mackie's Tracktion (which is for all intents and purposes now considered abandonware) and Apple's Logic (though it does less on a screen than Tracktion).

I would LOVE to see PG take a clean sheet look at their GUI philosophy and at least consider this type of a GUI as an approach. It is very time and effort efficient.

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