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PG member for years. All I do is record my sax. I purchased Focusrite 6i6. I would like to know the correct way of recording play back and save audio.I have two options 0 lat. mixer 1 and 1 I can hear myself play. DAW which I can't hear myself play. Play back DAW or 0 Lat.I hope I explain myself,just looking for the correct method of recording and saving audio. Thank You Ed
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Howdy Sax80....
It would be helpful to know what DAW software you are using?
First....it's possible you may not have selected the audio interface within your DAW software but I'm only shooting from the hip at this point.
I'm sure others will chime in.
Carry on....
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More info would be appreciated....
However, I can start to explain it a bit based on my Focusrite.
With the 6i6, you have 6 inputs and 6 outputs plus 2 headphone jacks. You should have the 6i6 connected to the computer with a USB cable. You want to connect a pair of studio monitor speakers to one pair of the outputs. I recommend a headphone amp (external) because the Focusrite headphone outs tend to be a bit weak. I used a stereo system amp for quite some time for that purpose.
In the DAW, you should see the 6i6 show up as both input and output options for both midi and audio. Select it and make it the default sound card. Assuming the DAW you're using is full duplex, at this point, with the speakers turned off to avoid feedback, put the headphones on and connect a mic and you should be able to hear what the mic hears.
My Focusrite has a software control panel, so I will assume yours does too. It is critical that you get the inputs and outputs turned on and levels set so that the 6i6 will work. This was the most puzzling part for me when I set mine up. It took a while to get that figured out.
You should NOT need a mixer connected since the 6i6 has nice preamps on the audio inputs. I haven't had a mixer in years now.
With a DAW, and if what I saw is correct and the 6i6 came bundled with Ableton lite, which is a fine DAW, you need to arm the track for recording and press the start. It should capture the audio while playing back any other recorded tracks fully synced. It auto saves the recorded track and asks for a permanent save before closing. Periodic saves are recommended. I'm no expert on Ableton if that's what you have but I'm sure they have a forum just like Cakewalk has for Sonar.... which is my DAW of choice.
BTW: what is: 0 lat. mixer 1 and 1 ?
You know, of course, that you can record single audio tracks in BiaB and also multiple tracks in Real Band...correct? They work basically the same way.... you simply select the 6i6 as input and output interface for either/or/both, and you can record directly into PG.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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"0 lat" means zero latency, perhaps?
In the 6i6 mixer, you have the ability to adjust the ASIO buffer. The default is 10ms but try setting it much lower. You will reach a point where it won't work but you should be able to go substantially lower for recording. You may need to raise it back up for playback.
Also try downloading the free utility Latency Monitor, which can help you identify any other programs running in the background that affect digital audio performance.
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Also try downloading the free utility Latency Monitor, which can help you identify any other programs running in the background that affect digital audio performance. Definitely. I got that tool a while back when Matt or someone suggested. Works great. EDIT: Just checked and mine was set at the default of 10ms. Ran the test and my set up was running around 0.8ms. Just tweaked it down to the low of 1ms. Thanks Matt! 
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Just checked and mine was set at the default of 10ms. Ran the test and my set up was running around 0.8ms. Just tweaked it down to the low of 1ms. Thanks Matt! Just pointing out that .8ms is less than 1ms  I'm assuming you meant it was defaulted to 10 ms, tested at 8ms and you tweeked it to 1ms...... which is quite an improvement. You must have a really nice DAW processor and memory to run numbers that low regarding latency. I think the last time I checked mine it was about 7ms or 8ms.... plenty fast enough for working on projects of reasonable size. All that matters is that it runs smoothly and doesn't choke. However, that's a really nice rig you got there to run those numbers..... I wouldn't know how to act if I could get 1ms. Very cool.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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Excellent. For technical reasons I don't know, ASIO will work at lower latencies for recording than playback, but of course that's good since that is what matters. Focusrite probably sets the latency higher intentionally so they don't get complaints of dropout from new users first hooking it up.
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0.8 is what I was measuring. I was just playing music through my DAW though. I guess a more accurate test would be actually recording while I run the test.
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