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#122213 - 07/20/11 12:12 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Trying to find the right realtrack
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This is one reason I prefer RB; it is easy to highlite just a section of the song, generate a real track to try it, if you don't like it just 'edit-undo' and try another one. Trying small sections (like one verse) speeds up the generation time and lets me try more selections in less time.

Posted here to appease Matt ...
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#122214 - 07/20/11 12:59 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: rharv]
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And a very good idea it is (yours, not appeasing me).
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#122215 - 07/20/11 02:25 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: Matt Finley]
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Didn't want the blame.
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#122216 - 07/23/11 07:09 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: rharv]
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Why hit undo ? I posted a song Smooth Ride with bass regenerated as much as 3 times in a single bar to make some space for other instruments . I started with a whole generation of it went back and cut holes where I didn't want bass and regenerated as needed ,sometimes as little as 1 beat. Whatsa no carrotsa with appease ?

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#122217 - 07/23/11 10:33 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: Tommyc]
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Yes, you can just generate over it again, but if I *know* it's not what I want I just undo out of habit.
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#122218 - 08/05/11 06:12 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: rharv]
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Pray, how do you regenerate selected bars only?

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#122219 - 08/05/11 06:13 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: acebone]
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Ah - RealBand - not BIAB, sry ...

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#122220 - 08/05/11 07:08 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: acebone]
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I think BiaB does this now also
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#122221 - 08/05/11 01:37 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: acebone]
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Pray, how do you regenerate selected bars only?




Using your mouse, hold the left button down, swipe the bars you want to regen, and then right click the track and the action you want is toward the bottom. Know that only from regenerating a solo 10 times until I got what I liked.

Alternatively you can create more tracks with the same Real Track, create several segments, and then cut and paste them together with one from column A and one from column B until you get what you want. I did that with a guitar solo and it ended up being almost what I would have told the guy to play if he was in my studio.
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#122222 - 08/06/11 01:11 AM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: eddie1261]
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Look at you Mr Eddie, you get the thing goin' now.
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#122223 - 11/04/11 10:19 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: Robh]
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"....but if I *know* it's not what I want I just undo out of habit."


Me too.
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#122224 - 11/04/11 11:36 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: Sundance]
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I have gotten some very interesting results by regenerating many different choices and not only cutting and pasting but playing 2 or more of them at the same time at different levels. On one song I have two pedal steel tracks and a fiddle, and playing them all at the same time created a very happy accident where all three tracks did did a short gliss that ended up sounding like smooth pitch bend event that slid into a perfect triad.

Now the other shoe. I have had HORRENDOUS results doing that too. All trial and error. Play with volumes, fades, etc.

So bottom line is that the right real track may be a compilation of several.
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#122225 - 11/15/11 12:04 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: eddie1261]
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For country lovers try playing with twin fiddles, results can ve awesome
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#122226 - 11/15/11 06:01 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: furry]
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What is rough is when I get something I love that I know cannot be replicated in a live situation without 2 pedal steel players and 3 fiddlers.... LOL!!
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#122227 - 11/18/11 04:27 PM [Post your own Tips and Tricks here] Re: Trying to find the right realtrack [Re: eddie1261]
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That's when you pretend you are doing it all with your ebow (sorry, couldn't resist)
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