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Hi All, Since getting back into BB (2016 Everything) I have been mainly using RT's, which are excellent, but editing is obviously limited. I have a SD2 which I haven't used for a while and would now like to incorporate it into BB. But where I am stumped is how to access/input the multitude of additional sounds available within the SD2
I used to use VArranger2 which had an ins file allowing access to ALL the additional sounds, on top of the GM set.
I can only seem to direct BB to play the standard GM sounds, despite checking the higher level option. I should say that the SD2 is driven by a Roland UM-One usb interface, as the SD2 only has standard midi connections.
Any advice would be really welcome.
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017 Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10 Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302, M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49. Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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Change the MSB (Most significant bit).
My Ketron isn't up right now and neither is my music computer, but MSB0 is the GM bank, followed by MSB1, MSB2 for the others.
I don't know how to do that on BiaB (again music computer is off), because I export to Master Tracks Pro and do it there. It's in the patch change dialog in MTPro, and probably the same place in most other apps.
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Al, you want a .PAT file for use in BIAB. Someone already wrote one and it's on this site under Support, Patch Maps. The direct link is http://nn.pgmusic.com/pgfiles/support/patchmaps/ketron_sd2.zipAn .INS file is used by a DAW. Once you load the .PAT file, you should be able to access the sounds from the higher banks.
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Matt, I can't thank you enough !! You have done everything apart from installing it for me !!
Thanks to all for the quick and helpful response.
What would us noobs do without this forum?
Al
BIAB 2017 Everything, RB 2017 Lenovo All-in-One. i5, 8gb Ram, 1 TB SHDD, Windows 10 Presonus AudioBox,Studio One 3, Behringer Xenyx302, M-Audio Axiom 61, Samson Graphite 49. Lenove Flex 15, i3,Windows 10
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Thanks Al. By the way, Notes is correct about how it works, but BIAB makes it easy using the .PAT file, this way:
1) Right-click on a track name in the BIAB Mixer 2) Select MIDI PATCH 3) Select Higher Bank Patch (from .Pat file) 4) if you don't have one loaded, or it's the wrong one, find the one for the Ketron and then click the UPDATE button 5) you should now be able to scroll down through the patches. 6) caution: I don't know about the Ketron, but many of these .PAT files (I've written several)do not work correctly if you select an instrument at the top left, rather than leaving it at ALL PATCHES
And of course, before you do any of that above, go into BIAB Preferences, MIDI Output Driver, select the Ketron as the MIDI Output device, and uncheck the DXi box if it was checked. In the pull-down for Synthesizer/Sound Card, I don't think you will find an entry for the Ketron, so just select General MIDI Instrument Misc.
Questions/problems? Let us know. I don't use a Ketron so my directions are general. Others here are using it, though, and may have better ideas for the settings.
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What would us noobs do without this forum? Be lost, get frustrated and many would throw up their hands and simply return the product within its 30 window. It is a very steep learning curve not for the faint of heart - just the nature of the beast in BIAB. With so much power comes great responsibility. And, if it were easy every one would be using it. Kudos to those dedicated forum members who share their knowledge so generously. We know who you all are.....
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