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I presently use a Roland SD-50, so I can both have Real Sounds and MIDI Sound of a nice quality and need only one single USB cable from my laptop to the SD-50.

I picked up a used unit, so if you are lucky (too) it should not costs you very much.

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Hey, if you're a kid so am I. I was born in 1945 too! After thinking about all this stuff for a week or so now, I'm going with some RT's. I may get some soon. The activity director @ a care facility asked me to put on a program for the residents on St. Patrick's day. So I've been adding some more Irish stuff to BB. I also play fiddle live to the BB tracks, witch is a lot of fun. Thanks to you all for your advice.
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Originally Posted By: tonnie
I presently use a Roland SD-50, so I can both have Real Sounds and MIDI Sound of a nice quality and need only one single USB cable from my laptop to the SD-50.

I picked up a used unit, so if you are lucky (too) it should not costs you very much.


Yes, my SD-50 works well as an audio interface as well as a midi synth so you only need a single usb connection to your computer for both midi and RealTracks from BIAB. However if you want convenient live mix control of the two sources then you need a separate audio out from the computer to a mixer.

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The activity director @ a care facility asked me to put on a program for the residents on St. Patrick's day. So I've been adding some more Irish stuff to BB.
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There's some good Celtic and Irish Bodhran Real Tracks available. Have a search for 'Celtic' or 'Bodhran' on this page


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Tony,

I use the mixer window in BB to control the levels of both MIDI and Real instruments! Works OK for me.

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Since I'm always on the lookout to improve sounds, this thread caught me eye.

Unfortunately, I know next to nothing wrt hardware synths (and barely more than nothing wrt to software synths blush). So, at risk of hijacking this thread, I have a few basic questions about hardware synths (sound modules):

How exactly does a hardware sound module get hooked up to a PC? I'm presently using an external sound card with my Kawai VPC1. The external sound card is connected to my laptop (where BIAB resides) via a USB cable. Then two audio cables run from the external sound card to my mixer. From there I have a choice of using my headphones or studio monitors for output. With that sort of set-up, where in the chain does the hardware sound module go?

Ideally, I'm interested in two scenarios: a) First I'd like BIAB's backing tracks to use the sound module's patches, while I play along with my VPC (using separate VST software). And b) It would be great if I could also occasionally use one of the sound module's patches for the VPC1's output?

Are either/both of these possible? If so, how would the sound module have to connected to my current set-up?

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a hardware sound module would work exactly the same as a keyboard which has sounds (not your keyboard which is a controller only, no sounds).

in response to: a) you're describing a couple of different things here, actually. BIAB's backing tracks are either REAL TRACKS or MIDI TRACKS. REAL TRACKS will not trigger a sound module for sounds, and you don't need it to, they're really just recorded loops that BIAB interprets to your chord and timing specifications.

MIDI tracks from BIAB can trigger sounds in either a softsynth (default is coyote which comes with BIAB) or a hardware synth (i.e. sound module) via MIDI output from your computer to the sound module. you'd need to connect your sound module up to the computer using a USB cable or MIDI cables to your soundcard.

b) you CAN connect a sound module up to your Kawai controller either directly or through the computer. if you go thru the computer, you have to deal with getting your latency manageable or you won't be able to play because the delay will be too bad. going direct from the MIDI ports of the Kawai to the sound module will have no delay.

so using a sound module in scenario a), you'd connect both the Kawai and the soundmodule to the comptuer then run audio cables from the sound module to the mixer as well as the outputs you have from your soundcard to the mixer and "mix" them for the desired output.

in scenario b) if you hooked it up that way, you'd have to make sure you have a good computer and especially a good soundcard set up with low latency ASIO drivers with low buffer settings, but it can be done.

you didn't mention what soundcard you have, only that it's external USB connected, so I don't know to tell you if it's capable of low latency set up or not. using a laptop MIGHT be able to get low latency, but laptops are more inherently high DPC latency so it might not work without stuttering, popping and clicking.

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My external sound card is a Steinberg UR22.

I'm aware that a sound module will only affect MIDI and not Real Tracks - should've mentioned that in my post.

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