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Anyone got an idea how I can use my favourite synth with real band ? Adding a vsti from the dropdown doesn't seem to work. Using windows 10 I5 quad core 3.3 ghz, 16gb ram and bags hd space
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Graham, I used Reason 3 with BIAB for years. I haven't done what you want, but I think I can help. Let me put a bit of thought into it and I'll get back to you. Are you aware that no version of Reason works with VSTi's?
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Thanks Richard appreciate it
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Okay. Here are two approaches, depending on whether you play keyboard or another MIDI instrument or not.
If not: Bash together a version of your song in BIAB or RB and have it generate a General MIDI part or parts for you at the proper tempo. (It doesn't matter what instrument as long as the notes are what you want, because you're going to change it in Reason.) Save that track as a MIDI file, import into Reason, assign a synth or sampler, and let 'er rip. Save that track as an audio file (I believe you can do that it in R3; I'm onto 6.5 and the machine with 3 has died) and import into RB. You will have to sync it with your other RB audio, but if the tempo matches you should have no problem.
If you do play a MIDI instrument, save a MIDI file of your rhythm tracks from RB (so you'll have something to play along with) and import those into Reason. Then play your part, save as audio, import into Real Band, and Bob is your proverbial uncle.
PLEASE let me know whether this is clear and workable. There IS a way to do what you want, and I'd really like to help.
Richard
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Here is something else to think about, Graham. If you have a registered copy of Reason 3 you can upgrade to version 8 for only €129. As a full-featured DAW you could create your RTs in Real Band, drag and drop them into Reason and do the rest of your audio and synth recording there.
You can download a demo with all functions except the ability to reopen saved files. (They will be there when you get your new license.) Take a look, friend. I know you'll be impressed.
R.
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At the moment Richard, I'm financially embarrased. Had to order a new rear window for the car yesterday, so with that and the new speakers I bought I'm so poor the mice have gone to live in the church. LOL LOL.
Upgrade's worth a thought in future though, thanks for the advice
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I understand being broke, Graham; I just wanted to make you aware of the opportunity.
Aside from that, what do you think of the suggestions for making Reason and RB play together?
R.
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Or..... you could buy a downloadable fully functional version of Cakewalk's Music Creator 7 which is a fully capable DAW. It's $20 USD. Just the Cakewalk sound center synth is worth twice that alone.... and it comes bundled with MC7. It's what I call a "No Brainer Deal".
I used MC version 4 for many years and it totally supports VST's in the tracks like you need when you're working with any softsynth.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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GH,
I (and I am certain Graham as well) hear what you are saying. This is not a matter of a mere GM synth, though. Propellerhead Reason is, in my opinion anyway, the most badass assemblage of soft synths, samplers, and effects available in a single package. Now in version 8, Reason 3 is still capable of stunning, dynamic, lush sounds. Modular in nature, it is only limited by your PC's memory. Plus, he already owns it, so no need to spend even a little on new software.
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Yeah I LOVE 3 Richard, I've got some fantastic choir & vocal fonts along with really gorgeous strings. I might try and use it as a stand alone synth and record midi into real band. I havn't tried that yet, but will tomorrow. More than one way to skin a cat.
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GH,
I (and I am certain Graham as well) hear what you are saying. This is not a matter of a mere GM synth, though. Propellerhead Reason is, in my opinion anyway, the most badass assemblage of soft synths, samplers, and effects available in a single package. Now in version 8, Reason 3 is still capable of stunning, dynamic, lush sounds. Modular in nature, it is only limited by your PC's memory. Plus, he already owns it, so no need to spend even a little on new software.
R. I didn't mention this because of the cakewalk sound center synth..... that's a freebee in the deal. Graham mentioned in the OP that he wanted to be able to .... Anyone got an idea how I can use my favourite synth with real band ? Adding a vsti from the dropdown doesn't seem to work. SO that's the point here. His synth doesn't work in Real Band apparently. If you have a really good synth and Real Band doesn't give you a good way to work with it in an intuitive manner.... you need to add a good DAW that will let you import the real band tracks and then you can easily add the VST of your choice and use it the way you need to use it. A good DAW will let you do that. And..... for $20.... you can get the Cakewalk Music Creator 7 DAW, which will allow you to do exactly that. Forget the fact that you're also picking up a really nice sampling synth that's easily worth double the price of the DAW software by itself. To get to the results he wants.... if Real Band doesn't let the synth work, simply add a DAW like MC7, import your audio and midi tracks from the other software and insert your VSTi and you're ready to go. This is exactly the method I use to create the music I do. Export from RB into Sonar and finish the job there. That's all I was saying.
You can find my music at: www.herbhartley.comAdd nothing that adds nothing to the music. You can make excuses or you can make progress but not both. The magic you are looking for is in the work you are avoiding.
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OK I've bought sonar X2, works great with windows 10 but, can't get it to see reason 3. Maybe I need to try and get a hold of reason 5 ?
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http://blog.cakewalk.com/how-to-rewire-reason-in-sonar-x1/Just googled this, don't know if it will work or not but probably worth a try, you can get other videos too by doing a google search. I haven't used rewire a lot with reason in Cubase but here is what I did. 1 created a midi part in biab. 2 be sure to create a mixer in reason first before opening the midi file.
imported into reason 5 and give each track a synth voice, a lot are combinator patches as a lot of others don't work, and saved. Get it to play and save. Close Reason. 3 opened Cubase and set up the rewire got to be somewhere in sonar, just a matter of a few clicks. 4 Opened and Loaded the file again in reason 5 if reason is set up in the host such as Cubase and sonar should play, but at this stage the sound will only be to a stereo track at least in Cubase. 6 go to each synth instrument in reason that you are using (not the effects) and use Tab key to turn them around, and then right click on output and choose hardware interface 11, select a number. Save song in reason 7 activate more rewire outputs in your host Sonar and it should automatically create a track with the corresponding synth outputed from reason to it. Now you will have the same number of tracks in the host as you have in reason. 8 as far as I can see you can then mix all the stuff in your host sonar or Cubase if you like. 9 when exiting you have to exit reason first before the host. Don't see why it shouldn't work it reason 3 as well as rewire has been around a long time Good Luck Musiclover
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Graham,
What MusicLover said. It WILL work.
R.
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I actually surprised myself Richard by getting it to work without a lot of trouble so thanks to you both for furthering my musical education.  Musiclover
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Will have a good tinker around later. Only got Sonar X2 yeasterday
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