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#98708 - 12/24/10 01:25 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: Wyndham]
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Hello Wyndham,

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A quick off topic question on JS. I am looking to do backing track similar to Loreena Mc Kennett's Mummers Dance or one of the others that have a Irish Bodhran sound or other hand drum sound. Will JS work for this in the basic package or an add on, if anyone knows.




There are Bodhran Realdrums styles... included in RealTracks Set 104.
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#98709 - 12/28/10 10:13 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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Thanks,I'll dig into it tonight. Just received 2011 and sounds like a lot of great new RT's to play with as well. Wyndham

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#98710 - 12/04/11 09:33 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: raintalk]
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Hi Experts,

I've loaded Jamstix as a vst and RB for some reason constantly send the first measure with clock to the plugin.

It never stops even if RB is stopped. And it never sends any real measure info to Jamstix, when I hit play only the first measure is sent over and over.

Anybody get this working?

Demo of Jamstix here:
http://www.rayzoon.com/jamstix3_demo.html

thanks in advance for any pointers,




Does this work in 2012 with all the VSTi that has been done?

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#98711 - 12/04/11 09:43 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: raintalk]
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No they have not addressed the VSTi issue as far as I know.
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#98712 - 12/04/11 10:57 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: Robh]
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Nope. Rob and I are two California boys who stay on top of this issue. If there were any changes we would know about it. I stand by what I said last year. It seems like it just can't be done. Something in the core programming code I guess. It's too bad, it's the one thing holding RB back. That and automation.

Look at how responsive PG has been in this latest 2012 version. They added virtually everything that a lot of folks have been asking for since forever. Except the VST timing thing. I doubt they just forgot or thought it wasn't important, it simply can't be done imho.

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#98713 - 12/05/11 12:37 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: jazzmammal]
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i have kind of given up on that one. I guess i will use RB as always, live playback, and song sketch board. For full mixing of new material i guess i have to use other programs, if I want top notch automation, and VSTi time lock.

I use Jamstix in RB all the time for midi playback, where i want a cover songs original drum sounds. Then i use RDs where i like a more "versionish" Drum track.
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#98714 - 12/05/11 01:24 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: Robh]
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That's a shame.
Oh Well
Thanks for the responses.

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#305668 - 08/07/15 04:52 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: raintalk]
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Still trying, hopefully next version should be fixed.

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#305905 - 08/10/15 05:04 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: solidrock]
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I'm no engineer, I'm like a deer with no eyes when it comes programing but LMMS has "Sync VST Plugins to Host Playback" same with VSTHost , and they both have available source codes.

https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/issues/184
https://github.com/LMMS/lmms




I can slave another DAW running Kontakt, EZDrummer2, EZKeys, Temper, Wav Player VST's etc.. to RB with the Midi Out Clock and it works how it should with position and tempo but there is too much delay.


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#305907 - 08/10/15 05:15 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: raintalk]
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I have used Jamstix longer than I have used BB.

I never tried to use in in BB however. I always work in BB in composer mode..... then I move to RB for the tracks and finally export to Cakewalk as my DAW and mixing platform.

In Cakewalk, I can easily drop JS into a track and let it do what it does best. It works perfectly in that DAW environment. And I would recommend that you use it there.

This song....>>>> http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11198785 is a JS drum track, created and mixed in Sonar.
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#305911 - 08/10/15 05:34 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Thanks Herb, love that song, well done.

When I'm working with an artist in front of RB it is a real pain having to go from one DAW back to the other because I can't make the drum track up how we need it in RB with EZDrummer.
It would be awesome to be able to do it all in RB start to finished, it kills the creativeness stopping and going from one to the other, that's why I get so $%#!@ off and frustrated, it's like getting up in the middle of sex and going to fix a loose floorboard lol. Also not being able to mute sections of track/s with Nodes YET be able to still use the mixer.

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#305917 - 08/10/15 06:13 AM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: solidrock]
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This is what I gotta to do, mixdown without RD's to wav open Reaper and build the drums up, they want intros here fills there cymbal roll here build up there and so on, you can't do that with RD's "yet", in EZD2 you can do anything ! so easy, easy ? maybe that's where the name is from ? then you might add another instrument somewhere and you gotta change a drum section so you gotta mixdown and go back to Reaper again just because of these little bugs.

Reaper_EZD2.mp4

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#308189 - 08/24/15 09:43 PM [RealBand] Re: Jamstix - RB is constantly sending midi clock [Re: solidrock]
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You can try this Slave Sync Live Professor Free to Realband/Biab/PT until the VST Sync problem is fixed.

SR

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