Chord,(comma) Chord,(comma) move on to next chord.
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I'll be interested in Trevor's response, but I can offer that Joe Zawinul likely did not record any RealTracks.
I should have clarified. I don't use BiaB as a complete orchestral arranger that creates and plays an entire tune and needs absolutely nothing else. I use it to create exceptional backing tracks, then I play my own melody - play-along, so to speak.
So that's what I meant by 'Some things are not up to BiaB, some things are up to the user!' Add your own cool licks.
However, there are some users who create some chords and just use the Melodist to make the whole song. Nothing more to add. That's OK, but certainly not my way.
Hope this clears up my meaning.
Trevor
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I was referring more to the way the rhythm section plays. There is a lot of accents and stops here and there that makes this tune stick out !
I also use BIAB mainly for backing tracks.
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I'll be interested in Trevor's response, but I can offer that Joe Zawinul likely did not record any RealTracks.
I should have clarified. I don't use BiaB as a complete orchestral arranger that creates and plays an entire tune and needs absolutely nothing else. I use it to create exceptional backing tracks, then I play my own melody - play-along, so to speak.
So that's what I meant by 'Some things are not up to BiaB, some things are up to the user!' Add your own cool licks.
However, there are some users who create some chords and just use the Melodist to make the whole song. Nothing more to add. That's OK, but certainly not my way.
Magicaldog, look in the Help, Index for Pushes, Shots and Holds. You can do a great deal of customizing by using those. For specific hits, I often use MIDI in either the Melody or Soloist track, and just write them in.
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Don't get me wrong, BiaB is a wonderful tool and it does what it does better than any of the competition. The output is better than a mediocre band and in some cases as good as a very good band, but I want to up that output to sound like a top-notch band.
There is more than one right way to make music, and there is more than one right way to use BiaB, it's just my way.
Yep. Biab is designed to make generic backing tracks based on whatever style is used. Nowhere does it say any one style is supposed to be a perfect cover for a classic song like Mercy.
Imagine there was such a style. What other tune could you use it for? Even if you changed the chords and tempo, the elements of the style would still sound like Mercy.
If you want those song specific licks and rhythms, you'll have to do them yourself of find a good midi file that has them. They are available btw. There are midi's out there that are close to perfect but most are not free, they're on pay sites.
This forum is all about us nerds wanting to do it ourselves, where's the fun is simply buying a midi file that was produced by studio pros?
At the request of one of my customers, I did a style based on Elvis Presley's "Don't Be Cruel". It had the song-specific guitar figure in it and turned out pretty well but it made me notice two things:
It would have been easier to sequence the song from scratch on a DAW or MIDI sequencer than to make the style and try go coax BiaB to play the parts at the right time
The style is basically good for "Don't Be Cruel" and that's it. As soon as the guitar lick comes around, it says "Don't Be Cruel" no matter what other song you might try to use it in
That taught me that auto-accompaniment styles, like those in BiaB need to be generic, and not song specific. Which means any song specific parts must be put in afterwards in Real Band, a MIDI sequencer or the DAW of your choice.
Danny, all you did was put the thread back on track! It became somewhat "diversified" along the way. No harm done. Lots of good ideas were articulated.
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