Log in to post
|
Print Thread |
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
A questions for all you guitarists out there. I've been experimenting with trying to get something that resembles Hank Marvin's famous guitar sound when I'm playing live. Right now I'm using two delays; one set for a short slap back delay, and the other set for 300 ml seconds. I add some spring reverb and this gets me pretty close. I know there are several pedals out there that supposedly do a pretty good job. Any recommendations?
I appreciate it.
Frank
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Last edited by 90 dB; 06/23/16 11:03 AM.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
Thanks Bob,
Yeah, that's the video I used as a guide. I'm looking for hopefully one pedal that will do the job.
It is a great sound.
Frank
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,645
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,645 |
Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up. Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.
64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
1986 Fernandes LE-1 Stratocaster with upgrades Seymour Duncan pickups, Fender Super Champ XD with 12 inch speaker cabinet.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,574
Expert
|
Expert
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,574 |
Now you've set me thinking. It's a great sound and I have the TCElectronic multi-effects unit. Hopefully I can get it with that. I've never tried before. It has the tremelo sound on it which is kind of nice as well.
Windows 10 Home 20H2 Build 19042.487 BIAB 2021 (Build 818) Intel(R) Core(TM), i3-4160, CPU @3.60 GHz RAM 16 GB, 64 Bit X64-based processor Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3 interface-built in midi) VoiceLive 3 Extreme, Sputnik Valve Condenser Mic
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
"Tape Echo" too? Anxious to hear the results! Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
From the discussion thread of the Youtube link from 90 dB: "Why go to all that bother when you can buy a purpose built Shadows Echo Box such as a RFX 2000, or a Q2 box or even the new Shadexs box which cost under £40,00 (50$) and they are all pre programed in against the title of the tune" However, not finding evidence of the existence of the 'Shadexs' box. Pretty much any Zoom G series pedal will allow you to chain two different delays together. Feedback is set just high enough on both delays to give a single 'repeat' of the original signal. Shorter delay goes before the longer delay. At least that's the way I would do it, but the 'instructional video' shows a guy doing the longer delay first in the chain. I'll see if I can set up a patch in my Zoom G5. Zoom G3 units have pretty much the same signal processing. Here's a guy doing it with guitar and effects for under 200 pounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HANfN7Bd-0oHe's using a Zoom G1 ON which is a cut-down version of the G5/3. $50 at Sweetwater: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/G1on-Scott
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
BTW - that G1 has amp simulation built in, so you can go directly out of it into a PA or recording setup because it has Vox amp simulation built in.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
Thanks Scott for your info. I have looked into the Q2 and RFX 2000. It looks like you have to find these used and then download patches to get the Shadow's sounds. Too much $$ and effort for what I'm after. Honestly, I'm really not trying to become a Hank clone. There are plenty of guys on YouTube who have that pretty much nailed down. I did look into the Zoom pedals and will consider them as an option after I've tried the Mooer Reecho: http://www.guitarcenter.com/Mooer/Reecho-Digital-Delay-Guitar-Effects-Pedal.gcI like the idea of having one simple pedal for the effect when I need it. Right now I'm using an old Ibanez Soundtank delay pedal for my slap back followed by some spring reverb (Holy Grail pedal) and then the delay on my Fender Super Champ XD amp set at 450 ml. Gets me pretty close. Frank
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,913 |
Sounds like you have it sorted out. It seems like the key is two delays in series, with one set at the 450 and the other set at 150 or so
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
Well, I received my Moorer Reecho and I'm very impressed. It seems to really do a good job recreating some "old school" analog delay sounds. The tape echo setting is very "Hank" sounding to my ear. And the price is right!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 5,139 |
Well, I received my Moorer Reecho and I'm very impressed. It seems to really do a good job recreating some "old school" analog delay sounds. The tape echo setting is very "Hank" sounding to my ear. And the price is right! The price is right on that pedal too. Glad you found your sound. I'm Jonesin' for one of these: http://shop.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplifiers/vintage-pro-tube/63-fender-tube-reverb/0217500700.html Would look real nice on top of my Classic 30! Regards, Bob
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321
Journeyman
|
OP
Journeyman
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 321 |
Thanks Bob, Yeah the Reverb unit definitely would look & sound cool. At this point in my gigging career (61 and still rockin') less/lighter/smaller is more...if you know what I mean. As for some sweet "surfy" spring reverb this has really done the trick for me: http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HolyGrailNFrank
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 8
Newbie
|
Newbie
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 8 |
Hi mate. Look up Charlie Hall's Forum. He was Hank Marvin's tech guy and there's nothing he doesn't know about The Shadows' echoes, better than anyone else.
It depends just how accurate you want to be as it can be a very involved procedure.
The best echo units to get the EXACT shadows echoes are: Alesis Q20 Alesis Q2 plus some modofied earlier Alesis ones
Yamaha Magic Stomp. I have this one and not only does it get the right echoes it even emulates the right amp sound - though you'll have to set your own amp up as well.
Check out my 'Apache' on YouTube. I did it years ago but it's a good example. This was recorded using a Korg AX300G for better amp simulation, and the Yamaha Magic Stopm for the echoes, these then went straight into a mixing desk then to the computer.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 8
Newbie
|
Newbie
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 8 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Off-Topic
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 10,099 |
Very nice. I enjoyed your version of "End Of The World" too
Jim Fogle - 2024 BiaB (1109) RB (Build 3) Ultra+ PAK Cakewalk - Zoom MRS-8 recorder Desktop: i7 Win 10 build 2004, 12GB ram 256GB SSD, 4 TB HDD Laptop: i3 64bit Win 10 build 21H2, 8GB ram 500GB HDD Music at: https://fogle622.wix.com/fogle622-audio-home
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.
ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!
If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Happy Easter! Holiday Hours...
2024 is well underway - it's already Easter Weekend!
Our Customer Service hours this weekend are:
Friday, March 29: 8-4
Saturday, March 30: 8-4
Sunday, March 31: closed
Regular hours resume Monday, April 1st - no joke!
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!
There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
Thank you to everyone who has contributed!
Video: Volume Automation in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Audio Input Monitoring with Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®
Video: Enhanced Melodists in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows®!
We've enhanced the Melodists feature included in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows!
Access the Melodist feature by pressing F7 in the program to open the new MultiPicker Library and locate the [Melodist] tab.
You can now generate a melody on any track in the program - very handy! Plus, you select how much of the melody you want generated - specify a range, or apply it to the whole track.
See the Melodist in action with our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2024: The Melodist Window.
Learn even more about the enhancements to the Melodist feature in Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/manuals/bbw2024upgrade/chapter3.htm#enhanced-melodist
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums66
Topics81,399
Posts732,551
Members38,442
|
Most Online2,537 Jan 19th, 2020
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|