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#154298 - 03/20/12 12:42 PM [RealBand] How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file?
rokq22 Offline
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Okay, I got a (semi) finished song saved as a .SEQ file. How do I turn that into a listenable (outside RB) MP3 file so I can share it?

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#154299 - 03/20/12 01:32 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: rokq22]
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rok,

Couple of questions need to be answered.

First are all of the "audio" parts of the song
in your Seq file.

If so you can Click Audio at top left.
Select Merge Audio and VSTi/DXi tracks to Stereo.
This will create a stereo wav file containing all parts of the
song.

I use Audacity with Lame mp3 encoder installed.
Load the wave file into Audacity.
Edit out the beginning space and end space.
Maybe edit in Fade-in and Also Fade-out.

Export from Audacity as Mp3.

Second,

If you have midi in your seq file and are using external midi keyboard or Ketron type device
you will need to play and record.

Keep in mind if midi is playing thru a VSTi the first paragraph takes care
of this.

Hope this helps a bit.
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#154300 - 03/20/12 01:46 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: seeker]
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I like to leave a couple of seconds of silence at the beginning of the wav file in Audacity. Also when you choose your mp3 compression rate pick the highest rate or at least 196 and it'll sound better.

Your next question will be where to put it so you can share it. Soundclick or Soundcloud are both free to upload your song to share with the world. Once you have it there put a link to it on the users showcase forum or the off topic forum and if you'd like feedback on something specific like the mix just ask for it.
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#154301 - 03/20/12 03:09 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: Sundance]
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Good advice being given above. The reason for exporting as a wave file is so that when you someday lose the .SEQ files due to a computer crash, and mixed down files are of highest quality. Mp3 are not as good, and you can always make more from the wave file.
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#154302 - 03/20/12 03:35 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: Robh]
rokq22 Offline
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@Sundance,
I even used to have Audacity on the computer but got rid of it because I didn't even know what it was for back then. Oh well, can always download it again. Without checking much about it yet, Audacity is NOT a DAW like Reaper is, correct?

Anyhow, looking up a tutorial about Audacity on YouTube I found this 41 second video on how to use Audacity to improve vocals:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWflvukIlG4&feature=fvwrel

Now is that cool or what!!??

Oh, back to the subject. I tried what you said and, as usual, hit a snag. All I know is that the song in question, when saved in RealBand, has the extension .SEQ. So to answer your question "are all the 'audio' parts of the song in your Seq file" I have to answer "I don't know!" All I know is that when I open the song all the tracks appear where they are supposed to in RealBand. But when I try your instructions I can't see the song!! That is, (1) when I open up my bb files in RealBand I see dozens and dozens of files all of which I can open in Real Band. That also includes the song in question as well as other songs I've tinkered a bit with and all of which have the extension .SEQ. But when I do as you say I get a different window and not nearly as many files show and, in particular, NOT A SINGLE SONG WITH THE SEQ FILES SHOWS. Therefore, obviously, I can't click on any of them because they aren't listed. (I sure hope I'm explaining this well enough). I think I'm missing a step somewhere.

In the meantime, I'll download Audacity with Lame. At least I can do that. I think.

P.S. I just found out that Google Search helps for more things that I thought it did!

http://www.pgmusic.com/techfaq27.htm#20

http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=90121

P.S. And, seeker, thanks for the "Soundclick or Soundcloud" headsup. Will check them out. Already found out that the MP3 was too large to send in an email. Well, at least I've gotten that far.



Edited by rokq22 (03/20/12 07:32 PM)

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#154303 - 03/20/12 11:05 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: rokq22]
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Realtracks are all audio. If you're not using an external keyboard or a Ketron to output your midi sounds - In prefs>audio check reroute midi to vsc/dxi. Then don't worry about that.

Back in your seq file, under the audio tab, select Merge Audio and VSTi/DXi tracks to Stereo just as Seeker suggested. It will ask you where you want to put the new wave file. Put in the same folder where you want to save all your original song seq files, call it My Songs or whatever. Add another folder inside that main one with the song name so you can easily find all files for each of your songs (seq, wav. etc.)when needed.

Close RB. Open Audacity and choose file>open go to your file folder you made and open the file. When you're done with it export to mp3 saving it where ever you want.
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#154304 - 03/21/12 12:22 AM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: Sundance]
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@Sundance,

Apparently all is (finally) well. I did a Google and found out how to do it in Reaper and was happy as hell. However, I will certainly try out your advice soon on how to do it in RealBand as well as what I found out in a Google Search.

I joined www.soundcloud.com and uploaded the unfinished project. I need to, at least, (1) Dump the click count-in at the beginning, (2) Add a solo, (3) Cut the end, (4) add vocals.

But, hell, like I really care so much about that now! First computer recorded song by me ever!

http://soundcloud.com/kiddcarvin

I think I will continue to upload EVERYTHING I record to YouTube (why not, with almost 1,296,000+ views so far on my channel?) while also starting an AUDIO ONLY thing on SoundCloud.

Thanks so much for yer input!!

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#154305 - 03/21/12 01:36 AM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: rokq22]
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You're totally welcome and congrats on the first recording!

BTW, you can put a link to your tube channel and/or your soundcloud page in your signature so it'll show up in all your posts.
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#154306 - 03/25/12 04:33 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: seeker]
rokq22 Offline
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Quote:

First are all of the "audio" parts of the song
in your Seq file.

If so you can Click Audio at top left.
Select Merge Audio and VSTi/DXi tracks to Stereo.
This will create a stereo wav file containing all parts of the
song.

I use Audacity with Lame mp3 encoder installed.
Load the wave file into Audacity.
Edit out the beginning space and end space.
Maybe edit in Fade-in and Also Fade-out.

Export from Audacity as Mp3.



I just got back to this because I was having problems with something I did and sort of remembered that I asked an MP3 question before. (I searched, which lead me back here! ). Anyhow, I recorded a gals vocals to the Paola (karaoke/instrumental) version of "Blue Bayou". The gal didn't really know Paola's version so she didn't sing it quite right. Well, what I did was bought the Ronstadt karaoke/instrumental version and replaced the Paola version with it. That's when I had to do my first REAL editing. Since the vocals didn't fit with the Ronstadt version so I CUT/COPY/PASTED them to fit and they came out pretty good I must say so myself.

Then I had a problem which I found an answer to from a Google search that lead to a forum somewhere I have forgotten. It had to do with downloading the LAME .dll as neither Reaper nor Audacity worked without it. I downloaded one that was specifically for Audacity (works)_ and I read how when you download a .dll to actually stick it in the Windows system32 folder. Which I did and now Reaper allows me to do the MP3 also! But I encountered another problem. I did the usual thing of RB being in PLUGIN MODE and I dragged the 2 tracks (one at a time) from RealBand into Reaper but I couldn't get the song to start AT THE BEGINNING! It started someplace like at the chorus EVERY time! And the same thing happened in Audacity! Indeed, NEITHER programs would start AT THE BEGINNING. The song would only start at the beginning in RealBand. (I still don't know why.) So what sucked was that even though I now had both Reaper and Audacity being able to make me a MP3 file it was of no use because the song didn't start at the right place.

Then I did a search here because I vaguely remembered me asking about how to obtain an MP3 file sometime ago because there was no way to from RB by way of a simple drop down menu or "Save As" thing as both Reaper and Audacity have. I thought RB only saved to .SEQ and a few other things. But when I came back here and read what you wrote "click Audio at top left. Select Merge Audio and VSTi/DXi tracks to stereo") VIOLA!! The .WAV file was created which I could THEN bring into Reaper and/or Audacity and create the desired MP3 file!!

A question, why does RB create an MP3 file itself like both Reaper and Audacity can? Is it a licensing thing or am I just confused?)

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#154307 - 03/25/12 06:21 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: rokq22]
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rokq22,

This is pretty clear on whats going on...
The wikipedia article is good, never etched in concrete, but informative.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=5c2ad6ec74fab5d7&biw=1231&bih=668

Later


Edited by seeker (03/25/12 06:22 PM)
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#154308 - 03/25/12 10:56 PM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: seeker]
rokq22 Offline
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@seeker,
Yeah, I think I tend to sometimes take some things for granted. "MP3 is a patented technology". Says a lot right there.


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#154309 - 03/27/12 11:12 AM [RealBand] Re: How do I turn a finished recording into an MP3 file? [Re: rokq22]
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Both Biab and RB do include the ability to compress files to WMA. That comes free with Windows. I've used it occasionally and to me at least WMA files sound just as good as MP3's do and even though people refer to an "MP3" player most players handle WMA's as well. Follow the same instructions as above in either program and select the option that says something like merge audio to a compressed file. That is WMA and it works fine.

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