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#157346 - 04/19/12 12:16 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Exporting from BIAB to daw
peyton56 Offline
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Anyone know if there something written about ways to deal with exporting to daw from BIAB? I export wave files and during editing its hard to get the the imported files to line up on the measure since there is a count in. I have tried to line them up by moving the wav to start on the measure but I was wondering if anyone has found a way to easily import the wav files into a daw which facilitates cutting parts and moving them to other sections of the song while retaining a good frame of reference. I use sonar.

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#157347 - 04/19/12 12:21 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: peyton56]
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#157348 - 04/19/12 12:38 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: MusicStudent]
peyton56 Offline
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thanks. do you know if this can be with sections of the song?

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#157349 - 04/19/12 12:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: peyton56]
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I having problems syncing the exported files when I try to edit a section to copy to another part of the song since the imported wav files are not lined up to the measure indicator in the daw. This make it difficult to maintain syncing the part to another section with the same chord structure. I recorded a harp part that has a delay coming in on one part of the song (a fade in intro) and I want to move that harp part to a instrumental in the middle of the song which has the same chords. Is there anything else written on this? Is there some approach that might facilitate this process? Thanks.

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#157350 - 04/19/12 07:12 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: peyton56]
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Hi Peyton, maybe it would help if you tell us which DAW you are using for your production, but for instance, I normally use Sony Acid Pro, and what I do specially if there is a midi part involved, is to make sure i set the DAW tempo to the same one that of the original BIB created song, that way the beat markers are the same and all your wav files and midi should line up. Usually the count in is four beats, so you place all your files four beats to the right from the beginning. I'm assuming that the same principle works for most DAWs ( I'm not an expert in this matters) my suggestion is based on my own experience. As far as copying an pasting a part, having the beats at the same place would also help, so all you need to pay attention to is at what bar on BIB the part you want to copy is at so you can paste your copy at the correct place so the chord are correct.
Maybe someone more experienced in this forum can correct me if I'm wrong or make a better or easier suggestion. I hope this help.

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#157351 - 04/20/12 04:43 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: peyton56]
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You need to make sure before you import any wav files from BIAB to Sonar that the tempo in BIAB is set at the same value in Sonar. So if the tempo is say 130 in BIAB set the tempo at 130 (the default is 120) in Sonar before you import. If you dont do this you will not get the wav files to line up properly with the Sonar timeline. Once you have done this you will always get two bars intro before the start of the song. So bar 3 in Sonar will then be bar 1 in BIAB and so on.
Cheers.


Edited by FrankK (04/20/12 05:50 AM)

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#157352 - 04/21/12 03:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: peyton56]
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I having problems syncing the exported files when I try to edit a section to copy to another part of the song since the imported wav files are not lined up to the measure indicator in the daw. This make it difficult to maintain syncing the part to another section with the same chord structure. I recorded a harp part that has a delay coming in on one part of the song (a fade in intro) and I want to move that harp part to a instrumental in the middle of the song which has the same chords.




I have a lot of different methods for slicing and dicing things that I've brought from BIAB into SONAR. Lets start with this one and see if it works. First make absolutely sure that your SONAR project is set to the same BPM as the BIAB song you are exporting your tracks from. I always allow at least 2 measures on the front end of a project to account for the BIAB count-in because the first beat of that measure is my paste point for everything that I import that was based on the BIAB song.

Now, If I were working with that harp track, I would creat an empty audio track to paste clips into and use the imported track as the source. Now lets looks at the fade in from the intro that you want to use elsewhere in the song. I'm going to split a clip out. The first cut is going to come on the first beat of the measure that that harp part fades in on. Now, I'm not sure, but I think what you are saying is that your harp is actully coming in ahead of beat number one in the song. Doesn't matter. If you set your project up the way I do, the first beat of the song is actually in the third measure of the project. And this means that your harp solo is starting somewhere within the second measure. Make your first split in the second measure at 2:01:000. Make sure you are exactly on :000. Make the second split somewhere after the solo ends. Copy the resulting clip. Now go to that new empty audio track we made, and get to the measure in the middle of the song where you want this solo to start. Make the paste in measure on the first beat of the measure at exactly 01:000. If after the paste it isn't exactly there just go into the property of the clip and modify the start point. That should get you lined up with the chords properly.

Making clips like this also allows you the flexibility of turning them into groove clips and acid loops.
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#157353 - 04/21/12 04:39 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: KeithS]
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if you go to this page there is a video titled DRAG N DROP TO DAW TUTORIAL

(on the left about 3 videos down)

http://www.pgmusic.com/videos.bbwin.htm

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#157354 - 04/22/12 04:15 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: Pat Marr]
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I don't believe his problem is getting the audio into his DAW. His problem is slicing it up and rearranging it after it is already there.
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#157355 - 04/22/12 04:59 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: KeithS]
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Peyton,

Sounds to me that you need to look into using the "snap" to note value. From memory, Sonar call it "Snap to grid". I'd imagine that there are a video or two on Youtube (and maybe even the Cakewalk site) that will show you how to use this feature.

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#157356 - 04/24/12 06:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Exporting from BIAB to daw [Re: Noel96]
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Snap to grid.
If you set it for a whole or half measure it should be a little easier.
I usually start the audio at 2 or 3 just so you have some leeway.
Make sure you have the tempo set to what ever your tracks were created in.
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