You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
#157690 - 04/22/12 02:58 PM Rendering WAV - no sound
Matti Offline

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 201
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
I have a PC, Windows XP, Korg 05/RW synth module, external loudspeakers and Terratec PHASE X24 external sound module. Everything is properly installed because I can hear the music made with BIAB through loudspeakers. I have also o MIDI keyboard and I can hear when I play that. So everything is ok for BIAB and MIDI.

When I render the WAV file it is always empty if I make it with my synth module. I was possible to make a wav using DXI synth but not with my Korg. I have read Pgmusics "Rendering to WAV by recording your Band-in-a-Box songs in real-time". I think that I make everything as is said there. The DXI is not marked on the MIDI options. I also have chosen LINE IN from the recording properties. The line out from my Korg goes to a blue connection on the back of my PC. I checked the WAV with power tracks audio window and it is totally empty.

Any ideas?

#157691 - 04/22/12 03:13 PM Re: Rendering WAV - no sound [Re: Matti]
PhillyJazz Offline

Registered: 12/02/03
Posts: 401
Loc: Philly
You need to make sure the blue connection is "Line In" and that "Line In" is selected in Windows "Sound" as your recording device. Also,in the BIAB MIDI/ Audio drivers dialog that under "Audio Settings" and then "Audio Drivers" that is selected as well. Do you have ASIO4All ??

The only MIDI that can be directly recorded by BIAB is VST/DXI. An external box will always have to route and be mixed in to the Audio stream.
Jan - Quad Core Intel Core i7 3.4 (clocked to 4.4)
Win 7 64-bit
Samsung SSD Boot drive,other internal and USB drives.
Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
Ketron SD4,SD1000
Onkyo TX-SR606 amp.

#157692 - 04/23/12 09:43 AM Re: Rendering WAV - no sound [Re: Matti]
Mac Offline

Registered: 05/29/00
Posts: 38502
Loc: Chesapeake, Virginia USA
Hi Matti,

You are using a Hardware MIDI synth and that cannot do the "Direct Render" of its sounds because the sounds live outside of the domain of your host computer's CPU.

The CPU sends MIDI data outside of the PC to the Hardware Synth, the Synth makes the sounds using its internal CPU and then sends those sounds out of its Audio Outputs.

The way to obtain a .wav or other audio format file of a song that has your Hardware MIDI voices in it is to Record the performance from start to finish onto the available Audio track in BiaB. Of course, that means that the Audio L and R Line Outputs of the hardware synth must be connected to the Audio Line Inputs of your computer's sound device using properly shielded audio cables and the right adaptor plugs to fit at each end of the cables, plus your sound device's software Recording Mixer must be set to record from the Line Input. If you are also using RealDrums or a few Realtracks along with the MIDI, the soundcard's software recording mixer must be set to a "Stereo Mix" or "What U Hear" or some other manufactiurer's designation that allows the sound device to record both the Line Inputs and .wav outputs at the same time.

Automatic "Rendering" can only be done if one is using a DXi or VSTi software synthesizer plugin, where the sounds are inside the computer in the first place.

PGmusic FAQs, Tutorials and Updates! click here

You must be Audiominds.

#157693 - 04/23/12 10:50 AM Re: Rendering WAV - no sound [Re: Mac]
Matti Offline

Registered: 03/05/01
Posts: 201
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
Thank you for your comments. I have no use for the DXI because the soft synths sounds (Roland) are quite poor. Maybe there are good commercial software synths nowadays but I have only these that came with BIAB.

I realised what was wrong with my gear. I tried first to connect the audio cables from my Korg to the PC. Then I realised that I must use the firewire. I connected the audio cables from the Korg to the Terratec external sound cards "audio in". And now the synth sounds go through the sound card and firewire cable to the PC. An audio files are created properly!


PG Music News
We're Celebrating Canadian Thanksgiving Monday, October 12th!

Did you know it's Canadian Thanksgiving on Monday, October 12th? We hope all our fellow Canadians enjoy the holiday!

Fortunately, we only close the entire office on Christmas. Our office has regular hours on Saturday & Sunday, but we won't all be here on Monday...

-Our Technical Support department will be closed, but will re-open Tuesday morning at 10am PST.
-Our Sales & Customer Service department will be open from 8am - 4pm PST.

The Marketing Department will not be available on Monday.

Our hours list here.

Video Testimonial - Jazz Fusion Guitarist and Band-in-a-Box Endorser Jeff Richman

Watch Jazz Fusion Guitarist and Band-in-a-Box Endorser Jeff Richman's Video Testimonial to learn more about how he uses (and why he loves) Band-in-a-Box:

All of the video testimonials are on our website at

Band-in-a-Box 2015 Italian Mac Version Available!

Band-in-a-Box 2015 per Windows è qui con oltre 50 nuove interessanti funzioni.

Abbiamo migliorato l'interfaccia grafica, con un migliore look, e molte nuove funzionali per risparmiare tempo come le etichette automatiche delle tracce (per esempio, invece di dire "Stringhe" si dice "Banjo"), pulsanti video-aiuto tutorial, anteprima istantanea per molti dialoghi, costruzione più veloce di brano /stile, un nuovo font per accordo RealScore scritto a mano e altro ancora. Abbiamo aggiunto il supporto diretto per i plugin a 64-bit VST (utilizzando jBridge, disponibile da noi). Ora è possibile salvare il brano come un video che è possibile caricare su YouTube o lavorare in programmi video. Si può caricare, suonare, vedere e rallentare i video che hai già scaricato da YouTube o altrove in Band-in-a-Box, estraendo l'audio e rallentarlo con grande qualità audio, per imparare o sincronizzarlo nel foglio Accordi e più.

A Look Back - GuitarStar: Brent Mason Country!

Why not embrace the hashtag trend for today, and celebrate the 2006 release of GuitarStar: Brent Mason Country?! #ThrowbackThursday

While announcing the release of this popular program, Peter had stated: "It’s been a thrill to work with an artist of Brent Mason’s calibre, and to feature his unique talents in the GuitarStar program. Brent is an incredible guitar player and a remarkable teacher."

We have continued to work with Brent and offer a huge assortment of RealTracks by him too!

The GuitarStar series doesn't stop with Brent - we also offer:
GuitarStar Volume 1: Rockin' Riffs
GuitarStar Volume 2: Rockin' Riffs for the Beginner

#TBT Band-in-a-Box 12 for Windows - All the Way from 2002!

As you know, Band-in-a-Box has been around for many, many, many years!

Let's take a look back to November 2002, and the release of Band-in-a-Box 12 for Windows... some of the new features released included:
-MIDI File to Style Wizard - automatically converts a MIDI file to a Band-in-a-Box Style.
-"Twice and many instruments" with GM2 Support - this added 129 new instruments to styles and songs, including the ukulele, mandolin, 12-string guitar and more!
-Guitar Chord Diagrams on the Notation - an option for standard Guitar Chord diagrams to be included in the notation display.
-You can now loop any section of the song - handy for looping a full chorus or other section of a song for practice or performance.
-Styles Improved - all of the Styles for Band-in-a-Box are enhanced with new StyleMaker features including guitar and other fretted instrument voicings, consistent volume levels, edited patterns, and more!

Want to see all the new features that Version 12 had to offer? Visit and read all about them!

Video - Using Drag and Drop in Band-in-a-Box for Mac

Want to see how to use the Drag and Drop feature in Band-in-a-Box 2015 for Mac?
We've created this excellent short video tutorial that explains this feature:

We have a HUGE selection of videos available to help you get the most out of Band-in-a-Box. Visit the PG Music Inc. YouTube Channel or our own Video Support page to see them all!

Congratulations RealTracks Artist Paul Franklin - CMA Award Nominee!

RealTracks Artist Paul Franklin (Pedal Steel) has been nominated for the CMA Musician of the Year Award!

We will find out on November 4th! More info...

Paul Franklin's RealTracks can be found in Sets 132, 149 & 182 - listen to demos of these here.

Forum Stats
23633 Members
38 Forums
35717 Topics
285807 Posts

Max Online: 1591 @ 03/15/15 04:12 PM
Newest Members
bcdefg848935, Trygve Larsen, Ian1, glyndwr, usaxikozo

23632 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
c_fogle 150
Guitarhacker 141
Pat Marr 119
eddie1261 117
floyd jane 117
VideoTrack 110
gibson 107
Noel96 104
Rob4580 98
Greg Johnson 97
Today's Birthdays