Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread
Print Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#375945 11/23/16 03:56 AM
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
BEGINNING MIXING - PART I

If you’re new to Band in a Box or have been using it for a while but are unsure of where to go after you’ve created your song, this is a great place to start. A nice basic mix of your tracks will improve your project almost beyond belief and will encourage to you continue creating more great music.

This series assumes you have already created a song with or without vocals and are ready to create a basic mix. Initially, there are some general steps to follow when mixing your project which are more science than art. The art comes later, and is much more subjective.

If you don’t have your own song yet you can load one of the sample songs from your favorite STYLE in Band in a Box and work with that. Ideally you would have already exported your tracks to a DAW like Real Band or your own favorite. You can also simply utilize the MIXER in Band in a Box to explore the possibilities.

For the purpose of this instruction I suggest you use a good set of studio style headphones. You’ll want something with a flat frequency response that does not color the audio by boosting frequencies anywhere in the range. You can listen later with your studio monitors to compare what you’ve created. Using headphones initially will help you hear the effect of panning, which means where a track sits in the panorama (pan) or stereo spectrum of the mix; for example, is your guitar track left or right of center, or right in the middle? You get the idea.

START HERE:

- If you have a vocal (a temp or “scratch vocal” will do) set the volume to zero DB.
- Set the PAN of your vocal to exact CENTER or ZERO..
- Pull the volumes of all your other tracks all the way down so they are inaudible.
- Make sure you have no effects like reverb or delay on any track for now.
- Set your master volume to a comfortable level in your headphones.

Remember: “Engineers who fry their ears, find themselves with short careers.” Live by it.

BEGINNING PAN SETTINGS:

For now, set the PAN of each track according to the following list:

Vocal - CENTER Nothing else ever gets set to CENTER unless it’s a lead instrument solo. “Walking” on the vocal is bad form and no singer will like it if you do that.

Bass - 5% - 10% left OR right of center, but opposite of the drums

Drums - 5% - 10% left OR right of center, but opposite of the bass.

Guitar or Piano - Set your basic accompaniment instrument about 25%-35% left or right of CENTER. If you have more than one accompaniment instrument, like a strummed guitar AND a fingerpicked guitar, set them opposite of each other.

Other instruments - Set any other instruments further out from CENTER in the mix for now. 50% -70% is a good range. These would include instruments like electric guitar, fiddle, mandolin, banjo, etc that are “sweetening” instruments or ones that might be used for solos later in the song. Try to place instruments that have a similar frequency range like fiddle and steel OPPOSITE of each other. Don’t overload one side of the stereo spectrum with instruments in the same frequency range.

Backup vocals - This will be discussed at a later point. For now, if you have backup vocals, push them to the outside of the mix. 100% either left or right of CENTER and opposite each other if you have multiple vocals.

NOTE: The goal here is BALANCE in the mix. You should visualize your mix as you would a band onstage and attempt to give each instrument it’s own sonic space. No crowding.

BRING IN THE BAND:

Choose your main accompaniment, guitar, piano, etc and gradually bring up the volume while listening to your vocal. Watch your VU meters and make sure the vocal stays out front in the mix.

Next bring in the bass, and drums, and listen to the mix as you bring them in to be sure the vocal is still out front of the mix.

Do the same thing with the rest of your instrument tracks while listening. Generally, other instruments will be softer in the mix than your vocal, main accompaniment, bass, and drums. We’ll get into fine tuning the mix later.

LISTENING IS KEY

If you’ve followed the steps above you now have a basic mix that should be satisfactory for now. You can use this mix while replacing your scratch vocal with a better take, or add intros and outros, or instrumental breaks, depending on what you want to hear in your song. Keep any additional tracks away from the vocal, giving them their own sonic space in the mix.

Learn to “hear” the different instruments in the mix. Good listening is an invaluable skill that takes time to develop. Once you have it, you can put a mix together in minutes. Unfortunately, you’ll also be able to hear bad mixes in others’ productions. Once you get good at it, you’ll find yourself becoming a critical listener. You may find this ruins your listening experience of other people’s music. Sorry. You now have “producer’s ears.” It goes with the territory.

There’s much more to come in this little series including using EFFECTS like reverb and delay, and using BUSSES to group your tracks for fast mixing.

Have fun!

Bob Buford, Producer
Summertown Recording Studios
Longmont, Colorado

Last edited by Bob Buford; 11/23/16 04:55 AM.
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
Excellent post Bob! Looking forward to the next one!!

One thing I do at the early stages of a mix is use a pink noise generator to balance the volume levels of all my tracks. It is a quick and easy way to tame a mix with a bunch of tracks!

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Hey John

Thanks for the input. How about sharing a bit more detail on how and why you actually do that. Some good info there.

Thanks,
Bob

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 408
W
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
W
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 408
Wow, phenomenal post, Bob! I love resources like this. I'll definitely be sending some people to this smile


Will - PG Music
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
Originally Posted By: Bob Buford
Hey John

Thanks for the input. How about sharing a bit more detail on how and why you actually do that. Some good info there.

Thanks,
Bob

Well, I am no expert but I have read about this trick and use it to start every mix. It simply serves as a very quick starting point for mixing. Basically you get a pink noise generator plug for your DAW. Then you solo the pink noise generator and one of your tracks. Adjust the track volume until it is barely audible above the noise. Repeat for each track soloing only the noise and the single track. When you are done mute or remove the pink noise and all of your tracks should be at a nice starting point for mixing.

http://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/mixing-pink-noise-reference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsV4mGTLB8s

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Will B - PG Music
Wow, phenomenal post, Bob! I love resources like this. I'll definitely be sending some people to this smile


Hi Will,

Glad you like the article. Most of the points in there come from questions I'm asked over and over again. Thought it would be quicker and easier to just put it all down so I can refer folks when necessary.

Since we all do things a little differently, if you have anything to add from your own experience please feel free to post it.

Thanks,
Bob grin

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 118
J
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
J
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 118
This has been a valuable post for me. I'm just getting started and had no clue of how to arrange the mix using pan. This helps alot....keep the posts coming. There are many others out here like me. Thanks...


Music is what feelings sound like.

Windows 11, Behringer UMC204HD Audio Interface, BIAB/RB 2022 Ultra Pak Plus
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,574
L
Expert
Offline
Expert
L
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,574
Thanks. What a great post. I'm going to try this on some of my backing tracks. At the moment I just leave them all at 90 and pan them a bit (if I remember) As always it's the obvious stuff that we never do. I'm wondering about using it with my live BIAB mixes as well as rendered Wav / MP3 files etc?

Just thinking how nice it would be if BIAB 2017 had some mix automation built in to allow us to automate varying the mix during playback? I guess Realband can do that, but I'm not sure how solid that would be live.


Windows 10 Home 20H2 Build 19042.487
BIAB 2021 (Build 818)
Intel(R) Core(TM), i3-4160, CPU @3.60 GHz RAM 16 GB, 64 Bit X64-based processor
Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3 interface-built in midi)
VoiceLive 3 Extreme, Sputnik Valve Condenser Mic
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: John F
This has been a valuable post for me. I'm just getting started and had no clue of how to arrange the mix using pan. This helps alot....keep the posts coming. There are many others out here like me. Thanks...


Hey John,

You're very welcome. Try experimenting with different settings and output several files that you can compare to find the mix you prefer. We'll get more into the details in the upcoming parts.

Have fun...
Bob grin

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: lambada
Thanks. What a great post. I'm going to try this on some of my backing tracks. At the moment I just leave them all at 90 and pan them a bit (if I remember) As always it's the obvious stuff that we never do. I'm wondering about using it with my live BIAB mixes as well as rendered Wav / MP3 files etc?

Just thinking how nice it would be if BIAB 2017 had some mix automation built in to allow us to automate varying the mix during playback? I guess Realband can do that, but I'm not sure how solid that would be live.



lambada,

I think all that's possible with just about any DAW. We'll get into "envelopes" to automate volume, pan, etc in upcoming articles. Give it a try. Experiment to your heart's content and output different mixes to see what works for you.

Thanks,
Bob

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,902
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 2,902
Hi bob. Great post! Looking forward to the next one.


LyricLab A.I assisted chords and lyric app. Export lyrics and import directly into Band-in-a-Box 2024.
https://lyriclab.net
Play-along with songs you know and love, download SGU files
https://playiit.com/
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,112
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,112
Seems odd that you would pan drums and bass. I always keep these right in the center, especially drums which is a stereo file (as rendered from BIAB). Although I suppose 5% is pretty much the same as zero.

These days what I struggle with the most is making a mix that sounds good in both stereo and mono, because most people seem to listen on mono devices with crappy speakers these days (phones, iPads, etc.) . I come up with a mix that sounds good in stereo, but when I turn on the mono button something will be too loud, or not loud enough.


Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Seems odd that you would pan drums and bass. I always keep these right in the center, especially drums which is a stereo file (as rendered from BIAB). Although I suppose 5% is pretty much the same as zero.

These days what I struggle with the most is making a mix that sounds good in both stereo and mono, because most people seem to listen on mono devices with crappy speakers (phones, iPads, etc.) these days. I come up with a mix that sounds fantastic in stereo, but when I turn on the mono button something will be too loud, or not loud enough.



Hey BA,

Yea...panning drums and bass may seem counter-intuitive, but just a tad helps keep that vocal clean. Give it a try and see if you can tell the difference. I used to keep 'em right in the middle too; I think most people do.

We go to a lot of trouble and expense to produce great recordings and some people, not nearly all fortunately, crush it down to nothing and play it on crappy gear. It's a shame. But those are NOT the folks I write and record for. I know people who don't even listen to lyrics; for them it's all abut the BEAT. Whatever. grin

If you try some of this let me know if you think it helps your final product.

Thanks for your response. Really like your work.
Bob

Last edited by Bob Buford; 11/24/16 03:07 AM.
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: JoanneCooper
Hi bob. Great post! Looking forward to the next one.


Hi Joanne!

Thank you so much. Hope it helps some folks.

B cool

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,112
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,112
Originally Posted By: Bob Buford
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Seems odd that you would pan drums and bass. I always keep these right in the center, especially drums which is a stereo file (as rendered from BIAB). Although I suppose 5% is pretty much the same as zero.



Hey BA,

Yea...panning drums and bass may seem counter-intuitive, but just a tad helps keep that vocal clean. Give it a try and see if you can tell the difference. I used to keep 'em right in the middle too; I think most people do.

[snip]

If you try some of this let me know if you think it helps your final product.


Bob


Hi Bob,

Sure, I will certainly give it a try next time I do a mix.

Cheers,
Dave

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,815
Expert
Offline
Expert
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,815
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
... These days what I struggle with the most is making a mix that sounds good in both stereo and mono, because most people seem to listen on mono devices with crappy speakers these days (phones, iPads, etc.) . I come up with a mix that sounds good in stereo, but when I turn on the mono button something will be too loud, or not loud enough.



At some point in the mixing phase (after you got the panning the way you want) you should mix in mono only for awhile. I have also heard that EQ'ing in mono is an excellent way to get sonic separation since you won't be fooled by the stereo panning. Use professional tracks from your favorite artist as a reference tool. Note that they always sound good in mono also. Generally if it sounds good in mono it will sound great in stereo.


Now at bandcamp: Crows Say Vee-Eh @ bandcamp or soundcloud: Kevin @ soundcloud
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Kemmrich
Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
... These days what I struggle with the most is making a mix that sounds good in both stereo and mono, because most people seem to listen on mono devices with crappy speakers these days (phones, iPads, etc.) . I come up with a mix that sounds good in stereo, but when I turn on the mono button something will be too loud, or not loud enough.



At some point in the mixing phase (after you got the panning the way you want) you should mix in mono only for awhile. I have also heard that EQ'ing in mono is an excellent way to get sonic separation since you won't be fooled by the stereo panning. Use professional tracks from your favorite artist as a reference tool. Note that they always sound good in mono also. Generally if it sounds good in mono it will sound great in stereo.



Really good points there. When I'm not in the middle of a client or personal project, I spend a lot of time "AB'ing" some of my favorite artists' songs. For those who haven't heard the term it usually refers to attempting to recreate a mix perfectly of a song you know well. The process really teaches you to LISTEN. I've learned so much from doing this. I may not use the exact process someone else used to create a song, but if I get close enough I usually learn a lot on the trip. By this time I have enough cover songs recorded from my AB'ing exercises I could release several albums...if I could afford the royalties.

I think a lot of folks tend to stick to what works for them, or doesn't, because they get comfortable with the process and don't really want to experiment with new things. Recording, mixing, mastering are extremely subjective after a point. There are literally millions of possibilities when creating a project. So I think you have to have fun with it. Experiment and learn to listen.

Thanks for your post. Some really good things in there to consider.

Bob

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,751
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 20,751
Bob, you have supplied some very valuable information here.

I was doing everything except that volume mix tip as I have always tried to mix with everything playing. That tip sounds, no pun intended, like a winner that I am going to try on my next mix.


Me, it's not about how many times you fail, it's about how many times you get back up.
Cop, that's not how field sobriety tests work.

64 bit Win 10 Pro, the latest BiaB/RB, Roland Octa-Capture audio interface, a ton of software/hardware
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: MarioD
Bob, you have supplied some very valuable information here.

I was doing everything except that volume mix tip as I have always tried to mix with everything playing. That tip sounds, no pun intended, like a winner that I am going to try on my next mix.


Mario! Hey man...

Some of the points in my article are probably "DUH!" to a lot of experienced folks. But I think for a lot of us there are holes in our knowledge. And for folks just starting out...it's ALL holes. So I thought perhaps creating a baseline for mixing might help people get started with a mix they could be proud of and thereby encouraged to move on from there. Also, I thought it would be good to open a dialog and learn what other folks are doing. Nearly everyone has something to teach us.

Mixing by gradually bringing in all the instruments has also given me ideas for "building" a song where I would probably have just thrown everything into the mix from the first bar. Sometimes I think "Wow, that vocal with just a guitar and violin sounds great!" Sort of an experiment in "less is more." My mantra for this series of articles: Don't be afraid to EXPERIMENT and learn to LISTEN.

Here's an example; we all have a few I guess. I initially wanted to just take off on this, like a bluegrass tune, but thought better of it when I started mixing:

Faithless Heart

Thanks for your post. I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on what you come up with.

Bob

Last edited by Bob Buford; 11/24/16 04:52 AM.
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 408
W
PG Music Staff
Offline
PG Music Staff
W
Joined: Sep 2016
Posts: 408
Originally Posted By: Bob Buford
Originally Posted By: Will B - PG Music
Wow, phenomenal post, Bob! I love resources like this. I'll definitely be sending some people to this smile


Hi Will,

Glad you like the article. Most of the points in there come from questions I'm asked over and over again. Thought it would be quicker and easier to just put it all down so I can refer folks when necessary.

Since we all do things a little differently, if you have anything to add from your own experience please feel free to post it.

Thanks,
Bob grin


Yeah, the biggest tip I give people is learn everything and then forget half of it! It's honestly such an "art" as opposed to a science, in my opinion, that the best thing a person can do for their mixing abilities is just spend a LOT of time discovering what they like and forming their own opinions.

That's why I love posts like yours so much, because they give out so much information that people can try out and pick through and learn from!

Another tip that I adhere to all the time is that when you want to make something louder... you turn everything else down (instead of turning the main thing up). Has cleaned up my mixes so much it's unreal! Who knew that if I wanted the guitar to be louder what I really wanted was a quieter bass?


Will - PG Music
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
J
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
J
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,565
Since someone mentioned using reference tracks, here is a great article and a recommended list of CDs to use as references!

http://www.digido.com/honor-roll.html?option=com_content&Itemid=54&id=46&lang=en&view=article

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 260
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 260
This is INVALUABLE for me. Thank you, Bob!


Andy

BIAB 2017 Ultra
Windows 8 and 10
Scarlet 18i8
Reaper and Mixpad
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Andy A - USA
This is INVALUABLE for me. Thank you, Bob!


Hey Andy...

You're very welcome. Glad that's working for ya.

Bob

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
Very nice, thank you, I mean I can hear the guitar on the right and the violin on the left, immediately, then the voice in the center, then the multiple voices on different side. this is a show don't tell moment.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Marty Sorensen
Very nice, thank you, I mean I can hear the guitar on the right and the violin on the left, immediately, then the voice in the center, then the multiple voices on different side. this is a show don't tell moment.


Great, Marty. It must be working. grin

Thanks,
Bob

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
And then, just now, there was a video of Chris Hillman, and he was in the center with a mandolin, and guitars to the left and right, and listening with this separation was a newfound experience. I believe you said (or somebody, can't look it up at this moment) that it ruins a lot of listening, but for me it's going to get a lot better before it gets worse. One more thank you.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,367
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 2,367
This is a great post you've started here Bob. Some really interesting techniques and a great starting workflow. I'm learning a lot. Thanks for posting.

Jeff


Win11, Intel i7 7700K 4.2Ghz, 32Gb RAM, 2x1Tb HD, 500Gb NVMe, BIAB/RB 2024, MOTU 828MK3 audio, MOTU Midi Express, Yamaha Montage 7, DX7II, TX802, Motif XS Rack, Roland Fantom XR Rack, Oberheim Matrix 1000, VoiceLive3 Extreme, Kontakt 6, SampleTank 4.3
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
GREAT series in the making Bob.

Thank you for these these tips!

Excellent!!!

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Marty Sorensen
And then, just now, there was a video of Chris Hillman, and he was in the center with a mandolin, and guitars to the left and right, and listening with this separation was a newfound experience. I believe you said (or somebody, can't look it up at this moment) that it ruins a lot of listening, but for me it's going to get a lot better before it gets worse. One more thank you.


grin Well, it only ruins the listening experience when you're listening to badly produced projects. But you will definitely develop a discerning ear.

Having fun yet?
BB

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: David Snyder
GREAT series in the making Bob.

Thank you for these these tips!

Excellent!!!


Hey David...you've been busy. grin Read some of your newer articles, you power user, you!

You're welcome. Gotta get back to it soon,

BB

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
Buford,

We done loaded your settings into our mixing board template over here at Graceland. The Colonel gave us the greenlight.

We call it the Bob Buford Board.

Tomorrow we got to get up early around noon to cut some tracks but right now I need a peanut butter and banana sandwich.

Thank ya Buford.

BOB BUFORD BOARD


Attached Files (Click to download or enlarge) (Only available when you are logged in)
Bob Buford Board.jpg (128.89 KB, 99 downloads)
Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Yea...well them's called "nanners" and too many of 'em 'll build a dam in yer innards. So watch that. grin

What DAW is that? Looks a bit familiar.

Later 'tater
Buford

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
Veteran
Offline
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 7,724
That's Sonar Buford.

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: David Snyder
That's Sonar Buford.


Wow...haven't upgraded that one in a couple of years. Good looking interface. It's hard to justify those hefty annual upgrades when Reaper has been doing everything I need. I still have Sonar Producer on the main computer. One has Cubase, and another, ProTools. Love to "fiddle" with 'em but it gets expensive after a while. I"m such a geek. grin

BB

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
Apprentice
Offline
Apprentice
Joined: May 2016
Posts: 266
Just to say I noticed that in 2017 the instruments come with a panning preset (it that's the right phrase) and I wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for this thread. Thank you!

Marty

Recording, Mixing, Performance and Production
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Buford Offline OP
Journeyman
OP Offline
Journeyman
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 728
Originally Posted By: Marty Sorensen
Just to say I noticed that in 2017 the instruments come with a panning preset (it that's the right phrase) and I wouldn't have noticed if it weren't for this thread. Thank you!

Marty



Hey Marty,

Sorry I didn't see this when you posted it. But you're very welcome. Hope to save some folks a bit of time and frustration getting started.

Best Wishes,
Bob

Previous Thread
Next Thread
Go To
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard
ChatPG

Ask sales and support questions about Band-in-a-Box using natural language.

ChatPG's knowledge base includes the full Band-in-a-Box User Manual and sales information from the website.

PG Music News
Update Your PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 Today!

Add updated printing options, enhanced tracks settings, smoother use of MGU and SGU (BB files) within PowerTracks, and more with the latest PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 update!

Learn more about this free update for PowerTracks Pro Audio & download it at www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_pt.htm#2024_5

The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!

The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!

Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.

This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245

The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option

Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!

Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

Forum Statistics
Forums66
Topics81,558
Posts734,397
Members38,490
Most Online2,537
Jan 19th, 2020
Newest Members
michel vermeulen, Mikanh132, ABE, Nancy Gochnauer, Frank G
38,489 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
MarioD 184
DC Ron 109
dcuny 98
Today's Birthdays
IAN WILLIAMS, larochep
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5