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I will be upgrading to BIAB 2017 in the very near future, but I have a question first.
I currently have the 2016 UltraPlusPAK, I read in the forum, someone saying you only need to buy the 2017 PlusPAK for $99 to get the latest program updates and the New 202 Realtracks. So what would I gain by buying the UltraPlusPAK upgrade for $149 ?
Glen
Intel i7 3770K @ 3.50Ghz, 16GB Ram, Windows 10 64-bit, BIAB 2024 UltraPak, Cubase 13 Pro, Yamaha Genos 2 Arranger Keyboard.
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The UltraPlusPAK upgrade gives you a fully configured 2017 version with all the RealTracks, RealDrums, etc on an external USB drive. Plug it in, and select your installation method (as you did with 2016) and you'll have all the new stuff.
The 2017 PlusPAK gives you just the new files (Program, RealTracks, RealDrums, etc), but will bring you completely up to date as if you had the 2017 UltraPlusPAK USB if you install over your 2016 external USB drive (or over the local hard drive installation on your computer). The difference in cost is the creation and shipping of a few DVDs versus the external hard drive.
Hope that made sense.
John Laptop-HP Omen I7 Win11Pro 32GB 2x2TB, 1x4TB SSD Desktop-ASUS-I7 Win10Pro 32GB 2x1.5TB, 2x2TB, 1x4TB SATA BB2024/UMC404HD/Casios/Cakewalk/Reaper/Studio One/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Dorico/Noteworthy/NI/Halion/IK http://www.sus4chord.com
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Makes a lot of sense, many thanks for your help John  Glen
Intel i7 3770K @ 3.50Ghz, 16GB Ram, Windows 10 64-bit, BIAB 2024 UltraPak, Cubase 13 Pro, Yamaha Genos 2 Arranger Keyboard.
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Does 2017 Plus Pak include new Midi Supertracks? I was told by PG it did not.
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Does 2017 Plus Pak include new Midi Supertracks? I was told by PG it did not.
From the Band in a Box Windows page: "During our special, SAVE up to 50% on most upgrade packages and receive a Free Bonus PAK of 8 Add-ons including 4 MIDI SuperTracks & 4 Instrumental Studies. Upgrade to the 49-PAK to receive even more NEW Add-ons with 24 additional UNRELEASED RealTracks, 30 MIDI SuperTracks, 18 Instrumental Studies, and 59 Re-Discovered Styles (36 RealTracks Styles & 23 MIDI SuperTracks Styles)... but only until December 31, 2016!" Hope, this helps.
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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I don't think the 49-PAK is what I was asking in my original question.
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I don't think the 49-PAK is what I was asking in my original question. My response was to another poster, not you.
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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On UltraPlusPak web page there is a chart which states there were 150 Midi Supertracks in 2016 UltraPlusPak and there are now 175+ Midi Supertracks in 2017 UltraPlusPak.
Presumably the new 25+ Midi Supertracks are not included in 2017 PlusPak
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That's the way I read it as well.
Cheers, Mike My Music * Asus ROG Strix G15CF 32 GB DDR4 4TB HDD + 1 TB SSD NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 8GB Win 11 AKAI EIE PRO Sound Interface. BIAB/RB 2024 UltraPak Build - Latest
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"Presumably the new 25+ Midi Supertracks are not included in 2017 PlusPak"
Not the way I was told. The price diff is: the cost and setup of USB drive versus 2 DVD disks.
DE
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Short term memory is getting shorter.
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Win 10, 64 bit, love my Lenovo T420, BIAB 2019 (613), RB 2019 (2)
Short term memory is getting shorter.
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I talked to PG sales before purchase. They said the 25+ Midi Supertracks are not included in 2017 PlusPak
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Here is what the live chat told me.....!
Will
With the $99 version you don't get the new MIDI content, however.
colin wilson
ok so to get the new midi I have to buy the 149.00 one then download 90 gig again ..surely that is not right will..?
colin wilson
hi
Will
Hey Colin, unfortunately that is the case. The new 49-PAK has all of the MIDI SuperTracks, though, sou you could add that to a PlusPAK to get all the new MIDI stuff.
colin wilson
ok bit strange I have to do that though Thanks Will
Will
No problem Colin, please let us know if you have any other questions
Will: 12:06:37
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I was on chat with Joseph and he told me if you have 2016 UltraPlusPak installed it does not matter whether you get $99 or the $149...after installing you have the exact same stuff. Now I don't know whether that is correct or not. 
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From what I understand, John. That's correct. The $149 gives you a complete version of the program (not including the $49 bonuspak). The $99 PlusPak is especially for UltraPlusPak (2016) and EverythingPak (2016) users and only provides all that's needed to get the 2016 version to have everything that the 2017 version has. Again, this does not include the $49 BonusPak. So, if you want absolutely everything the two options are (as I understand it).... PlusPak + BonusPak = US$148 or UltraPlusPak + BonusPak = US$198 The above might be worth checking with Live Chat. Hope this helps, Noel
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