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Just trying to use Additive Drums 1 instead of my hard synths drums to follow a midi drum track. Have a drum track setup in RB, midi channel 10. Have assign this track to Additive Drums VSTi and have selected a drum kit...plays fine but cannot control the volume with RB. The track volume slider has no effect on Additive Drums. Expression is set to 127. Have tried to insert volume nodes (CC7 and 11), but AD does not respond. Works fine with my hardsynth. Is there a way to do this? What am I missing here?
Jeff
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You'll need to consult AD documentation. It is likely not GM compatible and the normal CC numbers won't work.
I don't have that one.
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Right Rharv, that's what I'm thinking too. Have spent hours with the manual, it can do lots of stuff there but no midi control that I can find. Seems that you can control individual drums within the app and control overall volume in the app but nothing seems to let you do this from RB.
I know a lot of folks here on the forum mentioned using Additive Drums so there must be some way to do it. Either that or they must be dragging the output into another DAW and controlling it there. Was hoping that I could use it as a straight VSTi within RB but maybe that isn't going to work.
Do appreciate you jumping in here, your advice is always appreciated.
Jeff
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Don't break your head over this. Just render the track to audio and everything works.
If you're experimenting with different drum styles, punches etc, you have 48 tracks in RB. Create as many as you need and for the purposes of editing use the AD interface to adjust the volume so you can hear it. Once you've got the midi editing done, render it to audio.
Another thing to consider with those 48 tracks. A great thing about midi drums is you can separate the entire kit to it's own track. Make sure you're using different midi channels for each track. Now you can render to audio the kick by itself, the cymbals by themselves, hihat, snare, etc, etc. Since they're on different channels you can insert different effects for every part of the kit. Run all of those individual drums to a Subgroup and mix to your hearts content.
Bob
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Just for anyone following up on this in the future, here is the response back from XLN on Addictive Drums and volume control using MIDI:
Thank you for contacting us. I'm afraid that Addictive Drums doesn't respond to volume cc (or any other cc data), but you should be able to automate the track volume on the Addictive Drums software instrument track in your DAW.
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Just for anyone following up on this in the future, here is the response back from XLN on Addictive Drums and volume control using MIDI:
Thank you for contacting us. I'm afraid that Addictive Drums doesn't respond to volume cc (or any other cc data), but you should be able to automate the track volume on the Addictive Drums software instrument track in your DAW. Thanks for taking the time to post the manufacturer's response to your query. First it's nice to know they responded so fast but even more important to know Addictive Drums does not have any midi velocity control.
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I have the basic EZD and used it for the first time on a project the other day and found out it doesn't respond to RB's volume changes. I used EZD's mixer to set an overall level I could work with then tweaked that track using the volume nodes.
I then decided it was time to resurrect Jamstix and guess what? It does respond to volume changes.
Bob
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