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#387078 - 12/29/16 12:55 PM [Beginners Forum] how sound is routed in Band in a box
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You may find this diagram helpful. This gives you a general idea of how sound is routed in Band-in-a-Box®



Edited by pghboemike (12/30/16 08:05 AM)
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#387085 - 12/29/16 01:15 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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Nice!
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#387086 - 12/29/16 01:16 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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Originally Posted By: pghboemike
You may find this diagram helpful. This gives you a general idea of how sound is routed in Band-in-a-Box®

No picture, mike!
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#387095 - 12/29/16 01:55 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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You have to click on the word "diagram" to see it.
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#387102 - 12/29/16 02:19 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: jford]
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Originally Posted By: jford
You have to click on the word "diagram" to see it.


Thanks John, with my bad eyes I couldnt see the colour difference. Lmao! cool crazy
Very informative.
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#387119 - 12/29/16 03:52 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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That link color really is a poor color choice .. and it is the default for the forum.
Someone should tell Andrew ..

/this was meant as a reply to Ian


Edited by rharv (01/01/17 06:53 AM)
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#387219 - 12/30/16 08:57 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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Bob, I saw your request about this but didn't understand it. In the first post here, I see the diagram and there is no link at all; perhaps pghboemike changed it?

EDIT: I see he edited the post...

pghboemike, really nice! A suggestion: consider adding "including SuperTracks" to the MIDI tracks box?


Edited by Matt Finley (12/30/16 09:00 AM)
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#387317 - 12/30/16 03:59 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: Matt Finley]
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sorry can't claim credit for the illustration
http://www.pgmusic.com/gfx/bbw_how_sound_is_heard.png unfortunately i can't remember where it was
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#387527 - 12/31/16 12:50 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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Originally Posted By: pghboemike
sorry can't claim credit for the illustration
http://www.pgmusic.com/gfx/bbw_how_sound_is_heard.png unfortunately i can't remember where it was


My memory might be wrong but I believe rharv created the drawing.
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#387647 - 01/01/17 06:52 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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I've done drawings on routing in previous posts (thanks for remembering) but I don't think I did that one.

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#387694 - 01/01/17 09:21 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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So does this mean that I can the MIDI out on my Focusrite to my drum machine MIDI in and RB will play those Real Drums with my drum machine sounds by sending MIDI note on messages to the drum machine?

Can I make RB play ANY source of MIDI drums? Like if I import that track into Pro Tools and set up a Steven Slate drum kit, would that track play with the Slate drum sounds?


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#387698 - 01/01/17 09:41 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: eddie1261]
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So does this mean that I can the MIDI out on my Focusrite to my drum machine MIDI in and RB will play those Real Drums with my drum machine sounds by sending MIDI note on messages to the drum machine?


'Realdrums' usually aren't MIDI, but if you do have MIDI drums to work with,
sure you can; just make sure to route the audio from the drum machine back in to RB .. easy!

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Can I make RB play ANY source of MIDI drums? Like if I import that track into Pro Tools and set up a Steven Slate drum kit, would that track play with the Slate drum sounds?


Again, if MIDI, yes. I can use the Slate drums right inside RB without Protools, so I would expect ProTools could handle it (grin).
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#388042 - 01/02/17 07:05 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: rharv]
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Harv, I am trying to not have to tap the drums in on a controller. I was hoping that whatever drums RB created sent the corresponding MIDI note numbers out to an external device. I am THE worst at tapping drums on a keyboard. I can't really think like a drummer.
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#388149 - 01/03/17 11:39 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: pghboemike]
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Nope, the link was originally there, but blended in with the rest of the text (as RHARV said, the default). When I post links (especially the ones with text wrapped around it, I will always try to make the link bolded to ensure you can see it.
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#388405 - 01/04/17 04:53 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: how sound is routed in Band in a box [Re: eddie1261]
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Harv, I am trying to not have to tap the drums in on a controller. I was hoping that whatever drums RB created sent the corresponding MIDI note numbers out to an external device. I am THE worst at tapping drums on a keyboard. I can't really think like a drummer.


Whatever (MIDI) drums RB creates will indeed send the corresponding note numbers (and MIDI channel, and velocity, and duration, and CC's, even SYSEX etc).

You shouldn't have to tap any notes.
How are you using the Slate drum sounds (which VSTi or whatever and which software)?

Most likely cause of the problem would be that RB's MIDI note numbers and channels are using the GM conventional mapping and maybe the synth isn't doing so.
RB tries to use conventional standards to make things easy but some software/plugins refuse to participate.
There are a few drum synths out there that just simply do not support normal conventions.
I have no idea why.


Again though; if you are using Realdrums, these are not MIDI. They are audio.
That's about the only situation where I could see RB not providing the expected data.
Otherwise the problem is likely on the other end.




Edited by rharv (01/04/17 05:12 PM)
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