I'm familiar with using the transposing feature, but today created a prob.
I was (want to be) in Em. Everything was fine. I was searching for a new chord for a progression of 4 bars starting at Gmaj and ending at a Gxxxx (the unknown chord, at that time...I think I have it now, G11(omit 5)).
I transposed the song into G, just to see if I could find it, knowing I could simply un-transpose back to Em.
Though I did and do reset to Em, the song no longer transposes to Em. It transposes to F#m. I re-gen'd, closed/reopened BIAB, etc. If I set transpose to "Dm," the whole song transposes to Em, which is fine, but I can't find what I did wrong. I've visited Help, searched here, checked Preferences/Transpose. The Transpose cell still shows "Dm", but like I said it is playing in Em.
Help?
Andy
BIAB 2017 Ultra Windows 8 and 10 Scarlet 18i8 Reaper and Mixpad
I wonder if the problem arose because you might have clicked on the wrong column in the transposition options?
The column on the right will only change the key signature and not transpose chords or melody. (See the upper image below.)
Another possibility is that you might have accidentally activated visual transpose. (See the lower image.)
Also, a note on musical theory.... even though BIAB seems to do it, it's not possible to transpose a song from the major mode to the minor mode. These are two independent musical forms (the equivalent of apples and oranges). What BIAB does is to transpose to the relative major or minor depending on what was initially present. This means that if you started out with an E minor key signature and then transposed to G major (which is the parallel major of E minor), nothing should have happened with the chords. Where the difference lies is that BIAB will use the key signature when determining which instrumental runs to use. (Hope this makes sense.)
How to correct the situation...
If it turns out that the Visual Transpose is not active, you simply need to use the right hand column of the transposing options to set the new key signature. This will only change the key signature and not the chords.
Thank you, Noel. I will check into it. I'm sure it's operator error, my forte'. I did use/check the left column on the former attachment, but haven't seen the latter before. Things are a little wonkier when I use my laptop, which I was, rather than my desktop, which I am now, with two large monitors, much easier to control things.
Thank you for your help and time, Noel. Greatly appreciated.
Andy
BIAB 2017 Ultra Windows 8 and 10 Scarlet 18i8 Reaper and Mixpad
Worked great, Noel. I set the left column on Cm, which changed my key to Em (my desired key), then corrected the visual key to Em in the right column.
Thanks a bunch!
Edit: Oops. I spoke too soon. Though everything visually appeared Em, it played F.
No worries though, live an learn. Setting the upper key cell to Cm, adjusts the playing to Em, and all the cells in the bars are based on Em, which is fine.
Don't worry about it. If I run into the problem again, I'll ask tech to suggest a correction.
Again, thank you, Noel. You are ALWAYS quick to fix things for me or at a minimum make knowledgeable suggestions.
Last edited by Andy A - USA; 02/12/1703:21 AM.
Andy
BIAB 2017 Ultra Windows 8 and 10 Scarlet 18i8 Reaper and Mixpad
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