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Originally Posted By: David Snyder
I am still trying to figure out what itchin like a man in a fuzzy tree means.

Once I get that down, I will move on to 2017.

I think some of the lyrics on the radio today are about nasty sex, but I can't quite tell for sure. It's kind of vague.



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Fuzzy things make some people - like me - itch horribly bad. Thus being an itchy man in a fuzzy tree would be a curse to me! You might analogize it to a person with bad allergies (an itchy person) in a field of ragweed.

But there are a lot of things being said these days I don't understand - and, contrary to popular belief, I'm semi-intelligent. Since I've moved to the deep South (Alabama) from the Midwest, sometimes it's like learning a new language! They say things down here that leave me in a stupor after I hear them!

Best to you.

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Tell a good story that evolves through the song. What a particular word may mean in the future should be the last of your worries.

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
Tell a good story that evolves through the song. What a particular word may mean in the future should be the last of your worries.


We fully agree. Few songs, even those by the best writers and composers, become perennial blockbusters. If it catches the mood for the moment in time, that works for us. We would much rather be entertained by a great story with a technical/musical glitch here and there. if you have a good story and decent music-lyric prosody and the vocal is pretty much on pitch ... you got a couple of fans here. Man y of those outdated references in the lyric or musical style take me back a real good place on many occasions. It's always a good trip.

If you look at our signature block, you'll see our thoughts about striving for perfection. My grandpa was a pretty smart old guy - died in 1966 when I was in Vietnam and very often miss his wise council and silly sense of humour.

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Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
Tell a good story that evolves through the song. What a particular word may mean in the future should be the last of your worries.


And it's not a worry. I'm talking about what a word means NOW...as in, NOT the future!

I'm seeing recent lyrics being written on the forum using words from decades ago where the meaning of the word has changed since then.

That was my point...although frequently lost somehow.

I guess, not my problem wink Life is good by me. I've said my peace smile

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Originally Posted By: HearToLearn
Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
Tell a good story that evolves through the song. What a particular word may mean in the future should be the last of your worries.


And it's not a worry. I'm talking about what a word means NOW...as in, NOT the future!

I'm seeing recent lyrics being written on the forum using words from decades ago where the meaning of the word has changed since then.

That was my point...although frequently lost somehow.

I guess, not my problem wink Life is good by me. I've said my peace smile


I think it might be a matter of why the song was written a particular way, lyrically. Di and I write quite a few songs that are meant to sound like sixties rock and forties big band. We try to write them as they would have been written at the time, both lyrically and musically. Some of the sixties rock lyrics are pretty cheesy by today's standards and used a vernacular/vocabulary reminiscent of the era of the song. Also, the same word can mean something different in varying geographic locations. I'm originally from St. Louis. Since having moved to the South, I've heard expressions used down here, quite frequently, I've not heard in the Midwest in years. The culture in some parts of the country, including language, doesn't change as quickly as it does in other areas.

That said, I do agree that some songs that are contemporary do use some dated terms. But it doesn't matter all that much to me. Just tell me a good story with some decent licks behind it and I'm okay.

Wishing you the best,

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I make an effort to avoid utilising slang and vernacular in my songs because they have a tendency to seem antiquated very soon. Slang terminology may often be rather localised, which is another strong reason not to use them in writing. That's what I favour personally. I think I can think of quite a few tunes that did make advantage of such elements.

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Also, it's not a concern. I'm speaking of the current word changer meaning of a term, NOT its meaning in the future! On the forum, I'm seeing lyrics that were composed recently yet contain phrases that were first used decades ago but now have a different meaning. That was my thesis, although one that I usually missed.

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Talk about thread necromancy! This thread died 5 years ago!


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Welcome dueltmp.

We all start somewhere, and finding an existing thread of common interest is as good a place as any to start. There are no rules as to how new an existing thread has to be to participate. This is generally a great community of like-minded people, so feel free to join in, learn and contribute wherever / whenever you want.

Again, welcome smile


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You are so interesting to read. Here such creative people gathered

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Very beautiful tune. I want to listen more and more

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Seems the exhumation has produced a zombie. Very specific newbie discussion on a particular issue containing a link to a program related to songwriting & language whilst another freshly disinterred newbie offers a pair of completely unrelated comments with sales link at the bottom. Nevertheless it's an interesting thread with elements of lawn defence as well as self awareness.

Some new meanings don't deserve to be given currency though. I know it marks me as a stick in the mud but the old, old slang term "p.i.m.p.", (interesting: the BIAB text screener doesn't allow [*****]), was update a decade or so ago from a procurer to mean renovate/renew/reinvigorate, (with assumed reference to p.i.m.p. sartorial fashion in exploitation films of the 70s), but it's previous meaning really doesn't allow me to accept anything new...the mud stuck.

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You think everyone has the right to write everything they like in the forum. And I have no such right? Thank you very much for your conclusion!

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Ray can sometimes be rather brusque. Take no notice.

Welcome to the fora.

Most of us here are friendly and helpful, at least most of the time.


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I think it's fair to just say that "Most of us here are friendly and helpful"-period smile


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The comment I referred to is: "Very beautiful tune. I want to listen more and more."

Please enlighten me as to how this fits the thread? I couldn't find any songs posts which made the comment seems misplaced and brought the one above it into question...added to the two posts rather than an amended single. The appearance was of a bot drop. The link in the signature section amplified this appearance.

Clearly I'm wrong and am happy to acknowledge that.
There are the posts though, how do they relate?
I think you'll find I'm mostly friendly and helpful.
Brusque? I'll wear it as it's from Gordon.

I suggest anyone aggrieved by my above post reread it in the context of the preceding ones on this page.

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The sermon will be sophistry as the war machines return.


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The comment I referred to is: "Very beautiful tune. I want to listen more and more."

Please enlighten me as to how this fits the thread? I couldn't find any songs posts which made the comment seems misplaced and brought the one above it into question...added to the two posts rather than an amended single. The appearance was of a bot drop. The link in the signature section amplified this appearance.

Clearly I'm wrong and am happy to acknowledge that.
There are the posts though, how do they relate?
I think you'll find I'm mostly friendly and helpful.
Brusque? I'll wear it as it's from Gordon.

I suggest anyone aggrieved by my above post reread it in the context of the preceding ones on this page.

When odium is on the podium and the hypocrite fronts the lectern,
The sermon will be sophistry as the war machines return.



Wrong? Nah. That one was quite obviously a spammer. Nonsense comments totally unrelated to the subject at hand with a link to some kind of shady sounding legal document website.

The first one might have resurrected a long-dead thread, but at least said something germane.

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Thanks Byron,
Hey AudioTrack & Gordon Scott, have you noted that the account has been closed as it has been assessed as spam?


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For the record, I hadn't made any reference to that particular post. But yes, I note it has been removed.


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I think it's fair to just say that "Most of us here are friendly and helpful"-period smile

I've occasionally been grumpy myself, so felt I ought to qualify it a bit. Honest, but grumpy laugh


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