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#400973 - 03/15/17 08:14 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win!
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Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win!

[*]Improved: Much faster bootups. 2-3x faster! (note: fast bootups will start after you've booted up about 3 times and will stay fast). You can see your bootup time by [main menu]-Help-Utilities-Display Log File. Then look for two line like this:
- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.0, 3/6/2017 4:26:41 PM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =1,772 [2017.461.0, 3/6/2017 4:26:41 PM]

The first one, saying "optimal" lets you know that it is using the fast bootup method. The second one, shows bootup time which was 1.7 seconds for me! That's a record for me, and this is a fast machine (geekbench 4 score of 4,300 single core, SSD Drive, i5-6200 @2.3 GHz).

Anyway, I wouldn't expect 1.7 seconds from everyone, but you should expect bootups in 1/2 the time or less (compared to your usual bootup times).
If they are still slow, please select prefs-"Write a detailed log". And then reboot BiaB and you will see a file called BootupLog.txt being created. You can then send that to us in a message, and we paste it into Excel and see how long various routines are taking.

Note that non-English versions may take longer - we are working on that.

Please post your results in the following format:

1. Bootup time (from a bootup that says optimal as above). Remember, don't count the first bootup after a PC reboot, since your system is overrun with startup items like DropBox, Google Helper etc. etc. Wait until things have settled down.

2. PC info: Windows version, Geekbench 4 score if available, # cores, CPU speed. HD or SSD drive.
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#400994 - 03/16/17 02:24 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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1. 1.8 seconds
2. Windows 10, i7-6700k, 4.00 GHz, SSD

Usually fast enough, now up in an instant. THANKS!

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#401002 - 03/16/17 03:02 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 16/03/2017 10:00:03]
- Bootup time in millseconds =1,001 [2017.461.1, 16/03/2017 10:00:03]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =60. Plugins counted=22 [2017.461.1, 16/03/2017 10:00:03]

Wow that's fast...

i7 4 core 480gb SSD drive

George


Edited by George Nelson (03/16/17 03:07 AM)
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#401015 - 03/16/17 04:16 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/16/2017 7:14:26 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,007 [2017.461.1, 3/16/2017 7:14:26 AM]

Not to shabby - I like a lot! Specs in my sig.
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#401023 - 03/16/17 05:41 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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George, that's by far the fastest reported so far.
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#401143 - 03/16/17 07:47 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/16/2017 10:35:12 PM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =3,058 [2017.461.1, 3/16/2017 10:35:12 PM]

Dell laptop, Win 7 Home Premium with service pack 1 and all updates, 64 bit, i3 dual core cpu, 4 GB ram, 480 GB 5400 rpm hard drive.

Very noticeable difference.
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#401152 - 03/16/17 09:13 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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I was more than happy with 2 seconds or less on my i7. But I'm flabbergasted by 3 seconds on my old Core 2 Duo, a six-year old PC.
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#401157 - 03/16/17 11:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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))) Bootup time in millseconds =1,001

George,

That's a beast of a computer you have there! What have you been feeding it? Fastest bootup by far.

Peter
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#401158 - 03/16/17 11:40 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I was more than happy with 2 seconds or less on my i7. But I'm flabbergasted by 3 seconds on my old Core 2 Duo, a six-year old PC.

Booting time depends on the reading speed of the Hard Drive, that's why SSDs are the fastest.

My laptop is an i7 with a 512GB SSD. I haven't updated it yet, so I'd like to take notes of the actual boot time and after the upgrade, so I'll ask: WHERE exactly do I find the booting times?

Inquiring minds would like to know. cool


Edited by LtKojak (03/16/17 11:41 PM)
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#401179 - 03/17/17 03:17 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: LtKojak]
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Originally Posted By: LtKojak
My laptop is an i7 with a 512GB SSD. I haven't updated it yet, so I'd like to take notes of the actual boot time and after the upgrade, so I'll ask: WHERE exactly do I find the booting times?

Inquiring minds would like to know. cool

As per below. Note that the latest information is at the top of the file


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#401181 - 03/17/17 04:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Thank you, Video Track!

As promessed, I did it:

Before: avg. boot time 16ms

After: avg. boot time: 5ms

Definately an improvement, it really feels lightning fast!

Kudos to Dr. Gannon and Developement team!

It's very nice to see how it really is possible to make the best even better!

Yours very truly,


Edited by LtKojak (03/17/17 04:28 AM)
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#401188 - 03/17/17 05:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I was more than happy with 2 seconds or less on my i7. But I'm flabbergasted by 3 seconds on my old Core 2 Duo, a six-year old PC.


Yes. The same for me. My older dual core processor has again become the powerful sleek PC as the sticker on the side of the case indicates it should be...


- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:14:43 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,437 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:14:43 AM]
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#401190 - 03/17/17 05:28 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Kojak, thanks, yes I did put an SSD boot drive in that old Core 2 Duo PC. You're right, that makes a huge difference.

Your readings appear to be in seconds, not milliseconds. That's an excellent improvement, though.
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#401191 - 03/17/17 05:31 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: LtKojak]
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Hi Lt Kojak

5 (five) mS ???

Wow, that sounds very quick. Might need to recheck.
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#401233 - 03/17/17 09:29 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: VideoTrack]
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Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
5 (five) mS ???



I think that some people take only the integer portion of the value listed in the report.
For ex, in most of countries using the International Metrics system, like Italy or France, we should read for exemple 5 256 ms, while English countries will write 5,256ms. Taking the integer portion, that is the most significant value, we get 5, that is in fact 5 seconds and not 5 ms.

Some years ago, I asked to get all values listed in BIAB according to the System International.
It is still strange for many people in many countries to see we have for example 5,451 styles in the style picker instead of 5 451 styles.
According to the selected language in BIAB, the values could be implemeneted in SI display.


By the way, all values listed in the report are in 'millseconds'. The right term is 'milliseconds'. Let's call a cat a cat.
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#401234 - 03/17/17 09:58 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 11:16:56 AM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =2,161 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 11:16:56 AM]

This is my office laptop, not the one I use onstage (described in my signature):
Windows 10, i7 5500u (2.40 GHz), 2 cores, HD
Geekbench 4 CPU score - single core = 3370, multi core = 6409
Geekbench 4 Compute score = 14,679


Much, much better loading time! Thanks!
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#401254 - 03/17/17 12:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Some years ago, I asked to get all values listed in BIAB according to the System International.
It is still strange for many people in many countries to see we have for example 5,451 styles in the style picker instead of 5 451 styles.
According to the selected language in BIAB, the values could be implemeneted in SI display.


And of course, I know that in Norway (and probably other countries as well), they use a comma instead of a period to represent the decimal point.

So, a restaurant bill in the United States for 17.26 would be 17,26 in Norway.
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#401272 - 03/17/17 02:08 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: John-Luke]
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Originally Posted By: John-Luke
Originally Posted By: VideoTrack
5 (five) mS ???
in most of countries using the International Metrics system, like Italy or France, we should read for exemple 5 256 ms, while English countries will write 5,256ms. Taking the integer portion, that is the most significant value, we get 5, that is in fact 5 seconds and not 5 ms.

Yes, that's the case in my case, pun intended.

So yes, it's five seconds.

Still lightning fast... wink
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#401317 - 03/17/17 05:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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- Running Windows Notepad.exe to display file C:\bb\Data\FlashMessageLog.txt [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:56 PM]
- Bootup was optimal, set to fast [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:51 PM]
- Bootup time in millseconds =1,433 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:51 PM]
- Time to Count Plugins in ms =231. Plugins counted=45 [2017.461.1, 3/17/2017 8:48:50 PM]

Thank you Peter!

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#401373 - 03/18/17 05:49 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Faster bootup times ... post your results! ... may the fastest PC win! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Well, I didn't put a stop watch to it or copy those file numbers out.... heck I couldn't find them.... but there is a huge difference in the start time from "click" to "ready to roll".

Something in the vicinity of maybe 2 seconds. Since I'm rarely in a rush, that's good for me. I was used to seeing start times of around 15 to 20 seconds. Never really thought about it before.... it needed to do all the stuff to get ready, including loading the synth, and whatever else it needed to do. Fix it's hair and makeup... heck I don't know. 2 seconds is good. Now, I need to take a swallow of my coffee BEFORE I click start on BB. Previously I could do that while it was booting up... not now.


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