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Premise: Let's face it, with the built-in synth, the effect of velocity nuances in terms of the articulation of the sounds is pretty negligible (read:non-existent), but the story is quite different for high quality sfz sounds. So here I got this wonderful bass sfz that I'm just dying to use, but it is so sensitive to the higher velocity range (roughly 90+) that unless I find the way to lower the velocity values of the midi bass track, it's just going to go to waste  Any help greatly appreciated (but fellow MAC users obviously much preferred).
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I don't know about SuperMIDITracks, since they are handled differently, but for regular MIDI style tracks, there are only a few of ways to deal with the velocity settings.
1. You can always generate the tracks, then use the piano roll window, adjust the velocity levels, then freeze the track (since regeneration will revert back to original velocities as defined in the style.
2. I don't know if the Mac version has this, however, you can possible use the MIDI volume normalize feature to adjust velocities up and down. I know it's called MIDI volume normalize, however, it does so by adjusting note velocities.
3. You can always open the style itself and edit them there; there are options to add or reduce the velocity of a single pattern, row of patterns, or all patterns in an instrument. You can then always save the style back as a different name (or the same name, but it may get overwritten with subsequent updates).
There may be other ways, but those are the ways I can think of.
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Just to show you why the reservation (and to press a point) - We don't have Piano Roll, we can't save existing styles by another name either...and reducing the volume only makes it harder to hear.
Thanks for trying, though, any ideas are (almost) always preferable to none.
Last edited by Icelander; 04/04/17 09:25 AM. Reason: Afterthought
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Can you copy a style to another name, then edit that one and save it back?
And I wasn't suggesting reducing the volume, per se, just the velocity on the tracks. The individual track volume levels should still respond accordingly.
Just a thought.
Last edited by jford; 04/04/17 11:37 AM.
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Can you copy a style to another name, then edit that one and save it back? Apparently not, no "copying" of a style seems to register with the Mac version as a new style, is what I was getting at. And I wasn't suggesting reducing the volume, per se, just the velocity on the tracks. Quite. I misread your initial advice on this as simply lowering the volume level, but the reason I mistook what you actually said for that is because, this "MIDI volume normalize feature" that you referenced, (on our end) it only works as a global function which would just cause issues with any other tracks you might not want this applied to. But again, the thought is of course appreciated (particularly when you're the only contributor). Just goes to show what you're up against as a PC user trying to help a Mac user...
Last edited by Icelander; 04/04/17 02:41 PM. Reason: Fixed factual errors
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I hope you find a solution.
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Eddie,
In relation to copying a style... I just tried this manual approach outside BIAB and it worked for me.
1. Go to the \bb folder.
2. Find the style you want to start with.
3. Copy it to somewhere and then rename it.
4. Put the newly named style in the \bb folder with all other styles.
5. Start BIAB and then do a slow rebuild. This picked up the new style for me on BIAB (Windows).
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In relation to copying a style... I just tried this manual approach outside BIAB and it worked for me... (Windows). You ended that input on the magic word. I know this works for you.
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...this "MIDI volume normalize feature" that you referenced, (on our end) it only works as a global function Come to think of it, if it turns out this part is also true for the PC counterpart, then I just might see a Wishlist request coming up 
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Excellent hint.
And it worked for me in macOS Sierra 10.12.4 .
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Excellent hint.
And it worked for me in macOS Sierra 10.12.4 It does?!  Now, this is most interesting, I may need to revisit this idea, then, for I had pretty much written that whole "duplicate/edit styles" concept off some time ago. Thanks for the input, Mr. Magoo!
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In relation to copying a style... I just tried this manual approach outside BIAB and it worked for me... (Windows). You ended that input on the magic word. I know this works for you. Eddie, I'm not quite sure what to make of your comment. Are you saying that it's not possible to do a simple 'copy and paste' of a file on the Mac computers or something else? Regards, Noel
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Are you saying that it's not possible to do a simple 'copy and paste' of a file on the Mac computers? No no, nothing that extreme!  Just that attempting to work with duplicated BBox styles seems to be a lot trickier on the Mac version than it is on the PC version. I know, for example, that trying to load a style with Realtracks, change the RT instrument of any track in it and then saving under another name doesn't work at all on the Mac but works perfectly fine on the PC.
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ahhh... I see.
I wasn't meaning to do this within the BIAB environment. It was just an idea of something that could be done outside of BIAB and might be useful.
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Sounds like a bit of miscommunication on my part there too, then, but it's all good.
Btw, I went ahead and made a designated Request post in the appropriate forum, if not but for attempt to get this whole concept simplified.
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