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Oh By The Way..

For this one I did something unusual. I came up with a piano riff, and then I used ACW in BIAB to tell me what I had just played. The chords turned out to be a cool progression. So I used that progression in section 1, inverted it in section 2, and turned it upside down for the chorus.

https://soundcloud.com/davidsnyderchannel/oh-by-the-way

After doing a pre-master with my own bag of tricks I did a final run through with the Lurssen Mastering Console. Have fun. smile

Oh By The Way
By David Snyder

V1

Oh by the way
This world’s a prison
So I climbed over the walls
And I drive hard against the rain
I can no longer
See what I’m missing
It’s just the forest and the trees
The fog has settled on the leaves
Settled on the leaves

V2

And there’s a rumbling
Beneath the surface
I don’t know what it is
or what it really means
But I am walking through these catacombs
And I can tell it isn't home
I can tell it isn’t home

V3

Oh by the way
I am an orphan in the universe these days
So I am searching
for a place to call my home
We are deserted, and disregarded
And there’s no one useful
on the phone
no one useful
on the phone
no one useful
on the phone

CH:

Hello my children
Come join the circus
I think you know that it’s the only show in town
If you can find it
Your higher purpose
Then could you lead us please to slightly higher ground
Oh could you lead us please to slightly higher ground
Yes could you lead us please to slightly higher ground

Inst.

V4

We fight for water
But I am thirsty for things
This world cannot satisfy
Run for the border
If you can find it
Maybe you’ll find an angel walking by your side
Run for the border
If you can find it
Maybe you’ll find an angel walking by your side

All words and music copyright 2017 by David Snyder, ASCAP/Day of Faith Records

David Snyder: Vocals, piano, synthesizers, orchestration, production, arrangement and mastering.


****** Song Summary *************

Title: Oh By The Way

Style is _DUBSRCK.STY (Alt Dubstep and Rock[70RS])

RealTracks in style: 2298:Bass, Synth, DanceRockBuzzBass Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1742:Synth, Rhythm ModernDancePopRaveStringsHeld Ev 120
RealTracks in style: 1527:Guitar, Electric, Rhythm PopPowerBrightClean Ev 120
Loop in Style: HipHop\Old School - gangstar_beat_95b ev16 quiet.wav
RealDrums in style: TechnoElectro^GH-a:HatSnap, b:Snap

(Viola RT in intro with David Snyder on Piano)

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Hi David.

Great track! Why am I left thinking Pink Floyd?

These are the sort of lyrics to which everyone manages to relate, but to which everyone applies a different meaning. Very deep.

Loved the whole feel of the track and was impressed with the chord sequence.

Excellent mix in the phones and on the mains.

Most enjoyable.

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David,

I've have been enjoying all of your edgy songs lately. They have a bite and presence that really looms large, in addition to the excellent vocals and production values.

Awesome!

Bob

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David, I like the way you think outside the box (no pun intended). You constantly explore the limits and boundaries of the program and make things work in a nice way. I liked that chord progression in those verses. I was reminded of Led Zep in this. Thanks, Torrey.




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Well David, this took us by surprise that.... emotional side of you grin
Nuf said, simply beautiful!

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David

Sounds great - nicely put together and I particularly liked the chorus.
Great work and interesting arrangement.

Peter

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Very creative and different, as always!
Intro is great. Neat progression and cool the method you used to generate it.

Lots of great lyrics, my favorite line is "Oh by the way
I am an orphan in the universe these days"

Nice one, David!

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Thanks ROG,

That is a wonderful compliment and really made my day. So glad you enjoyed it!!!

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Thanks Bob,

Just trying to keep up with ya man. smile

Glad you enjoyed it!!

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Thank you Torrey. I have been really loving your new songs as well!

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Hey Rob and Anne-Marie,

I know, I know, it is hard for me to show my emotional side, but sometimes I break through.

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Thanks for the kind words!!

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Super track David. I am with Rog on this one. Was thinking Pink Floyd as well. Very creative piece well done


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Awesome song.

Awesome songwriting. One of your best, I think. There are wonderful lines throughout this...

"So I climbed over the walls
And I drive hard against the rain..."

"I am an orphan in the universe these days..."

"We are deserted, and disregarded
And there’s no one useful
on the phone..."

"could you lead us please to slightly higher ground..."

"We fight for water
But I am thirsty for things
This world cannot satisfy..."

...to mention a few.

Super band! Great use of the boys in the Box.. and your own additions...

Well put together. Good mix. An excellent listen - truly...

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David, very interesting the way you put this together. Some great lyrics worthy of many listens. I believe this is your best vocal. Really delivered the song. A super listen that I enjoyed a lot. Tom

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Major Sound!

love what's going on here,

it is a really good vocal

I thought of Peter Gabriel, listening to this

very dream like lyrics

some dark and even sarcastic, some slightly hopeful

that's just what I got out of it, it's open to many interpretations

enjoyed it

Kenny

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Ok, Kenny, so by mentioning Peter Gabriel, you just made my life!!!

Thank you so much!!!

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Thank you Peter!!

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Thanks Dave!!!

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Thank you Scott! Pink Floyd will do!

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Thank you buddy!!! That means the world to me!

I am really glad you enjoyed it. Awesome is good.

smile

Thanks again Floyd.

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Thanks Tom!!

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Truly exceptional stuff!! So creative, so interesting. That groove is infectious and your lyrics are abstract but compelling (John Lennon kind of thing). I could have listened to this song go on for another 10 minutes. Really extraordinary work David!! Always look forward to your creative compositions! Take care. Greg

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Hello, David

Very unique chord progression!
However, it's wonderful there is no place where the melody is failing.
I agree with Torrey. You constantly explore the limits and boundaries of the program and make things work in a nice way.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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"could you lead us please to slightly higher ground"

Really. Not the highest just a bit higher.

Helluva write, vocal and production. The amount of creativity in this is staggering. And it shows throughout every aspect of the production.

We like intelligent writes that are not overly intellectualized and allows the listener room to connect some personal dots.

Excellent.

J&B

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Sorry to be so late getting to this but Di is very sick and it has consumed most of my time.

Wow! What a full, big sound! And your vocal is outstanding. This great in every way we can think of. So many "big" songs on the forum is this is one of the best. Outstanding in every way. We're on our second listen as I type this. We're very impressed, to say the least.

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I enjoyed this. The lyrics are intriguing. Early Pink Floyd meets Joy Division.


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Wow, this is a really unique piece David! From the chord progression, to the lyrics, this is a wonderful song. Thanks so much for sharing!

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Thanks Greg! Next time I will make a 20 minute for you man.

Thanks so much for the kind words!!

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Thanks Shigeki!

I am really glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the very kind words.

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Thanks Janice and Bud,

I am so glad you enjoyed it!

I am having so much fun doing this.

It does feel kinda illegal to be having this much fun.

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Oh, my heart goes out to Di. I hope you feel better soon Di!

Thanks for the very kind words as well.

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Wow Lambada, Joy Division!!! Yes! You are so right!

Long time since I thought of those guys, Should go dig up my tapes!

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Thanks for the insights and kind words.

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Thank you Deryk,

I am so glad you enjoyed it!!

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David,

Once more it seems that you take a left turn when the street sign says to turn right!

There's no doubting it, creativity takes you along roads that few of us have ever discovered. As others above have said, there are some incredibly vibrant lines in these lyrics. "I am an orphan in the universe" was particularly rich with imagery for me.

The overarching sound of your mix is excellent! It sounds like Lurssen really packs some punch.

All the best,
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Ok David, I don't comment very often on your songs, or really many songs at all. I've been treating the showcase more like a radio station that what it is probably meant for...interaction.

So, here we go. I enjoy your songs a lot. They always stretch my thinking and break me out of the totally commercial world I live in. You are very artistic in what you do. It's fun to hear someone express themselves so freely; and with so many varied ideas.

The best way I can express this feeling to you is...
I say something like "You think SO outside the box!"
You say "Dude...that's not a box"
Mind blown, matrix moment. smile

Thanks, as always, even if I haven't expressed it. Working on that!


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Thanks Noel,

That really means a lot! I appreciate your "overarching sound" comment. That is what I was striving for! smile

Yeah, that Lurssen mastering program does work quite well. Very impressive piece of software. Thanks for the listen!

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Thanks Hear to Learn!

Love the matrix comment/analogy! smile

That made my day. It was kind of the matrix piecing this together. It is the first song I have ever staged in overlapping parts.

Tricky but fun. So glad you like it!!

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An interesting parallel to me in your musical craft is the maturity I see between you as a songwriter and a songwriter with Band in a Box.

You with Band in a Box is similar to the change of Lennon and McCartney and George Harrison when they transitioned from a touring band to a studio band with unlimited time in the studio. Their creativity was not fully released nor realized until they abandoned touring and went full time into the studio to play and experiment.

I'm unsure if your weak link to greatness might be nothing more than you haven't been harnessed by someone like George Martin as they were. Over time, we learned George Martin was much more instrumental and influential than what was once thought. I think Band in a Box is your Abbey Roads Studio.

This song is a great example of you experimenting and playing around, testing the bounds of what you can pull out of BIAB and doing this with more complexity and creativity than you realize. You can be quirky, funny and serious with your lyrics and creative in your musical arrangements. This song is a great example of you and your music. Band in a Box is more than a tool to you, it's your creative gateway.

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Originally Posted By: Charlie Fogle
An interesting parallel to me in your musical craft is the maturity I see between you as a songwriter and a songwriter with Band in a Box.

You with Band in a Box is similar to the change of Lennon and McCartney and George Harrison when they transitioned from a touring band to a studio band with unlimited time in the studio. Their creativity was not fully released nor realized until they abandoned touring and went full time into the studio to play and experiment.

I'm unsure if your weak link to greatness might be nothing more than you haven't been harnessed by someone like George Martin as they were. Over time, we learned George Martin was much more instrumental and influential than what was once thought. I think Band in a Box is your Abbey Roads Studio.

This song is a great example of you experimenting and playing around, testing the bounds of what you can pull out of BIAB and doing this with more complexity and creativity than you realize. You can be quirky, funny and serious with your lyrics and creative in your musical arrangements. This song is a great example of you and your music. Band in a Box is more than a tool to you, it's your creative gateway.

Charlie


Charlie, this is just about the most most amazing thing I have ever read with regard to Band in a Box, my musical journey, and my use of Band in a Box.

PG Music, feel free to excerpt this anywhere you want. smile

Charlie, this is so insightful I don't even know where to begin but I will take a stab.

First I am a huge Beatles fan, and of McCartney in particular. Pre-Box in a Box (i.e. before Herb Hartley told me to get out my credit card and it would be the best move I ever made) I was always very frustrated in getting the sounds I wanted as an artist.

From my very first package (2014 basic pack with maybe 29 Real Real Tracks) I felt like a kid in an Indiana Jones movie stumbling into a treasure cave with the lost fortune of a Pharaoh. I was stunned and said to myself "Oh My God, there's no limit now. There really is no limit. Look at all those piles of gold. Holy cow."

It did not take long to get my credit card back out and order the ultra pak, and soon came the audiophile versions and every VST known to man.

So, yes, absolutely, I am totally obsessed with the worlds, galaxies, parallel universes, and distant planets Band in a Box has made available. There is no question that the tool (as a virtual studio) has become my songwriting partner and producer. On this song, I wrote a piano riff, asked the program what I was doing and it kinda suggested the chord progression. How much more George Martin or Abbey Road can you get?? Even my brother (who is a professional producer) said the same thing. He said: "It looks like you managed to cram Abbey Road into one room here dude."

So yeah, I am composing with a robot for a buddy, but loving every single second of it, and completely, madly obsessed.

I would also say, just hang on man. You ain't seen nothing yet. I'm just getting warmed up.

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Thanks a billion for the comments Charlie. They really blew me away. Very insightful.

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hi David nice work with biab great lyrics this is a very good peace it has a strong engaging effect on the listener good vocal ever thing fit perfect thanks for sharing eric


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Thanks F.M.M., I really appreciate that!! Hope you had a great weekend and so glad you enjoyed the songs!

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Definitely hearing more Pink Floyd than Beatles. wink

Nice - melodic with strong lyrics.


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Very nice listening and great production.
You've been very able using those effect and putting them in the song.

Great result.

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Hi David,

Well, I left a comment over on the Soundcloud track but it appears I never came back here to follow up with a comment. Di's health is really bad and have been attending to that plus all the domestic chores. She had a pretty good day today.

Anyway, this is very creative and what a splendid production! Your vocal is great and this is just so danged good! What a treat! Best to you,

Alan


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Thanks Al and Di! Stilling continuing to remember both of you in my thoughts and prayers. Hope Di starts to get better and feel better soon!!! Sending lots of love and positive vibes your way.

Hang in there!

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Thank you Sergio!

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Everybody keeps saying Pink Floyd! Well, I guess I will have to live with that!

Thanks Dave!!

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Thank you so much Floyd!!! Your kindness is always appreciated.

Just trying to keep up with you my country brother, though I know it is an impossible task!!

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Wow! Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! Glad you liked it!

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Thank you man, that means a lot!

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Your song is like a wonderful mash-up between modern music and classic rock ( the vocals in specific ). It goes really well together!

Keep up the awesome work!


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Thank you so much Ember!!! I really appreciate that. You may be new to PG Music, because I have not seen your name before, and if so welcome to the forum!!!!!

Thanks again for your kind words, they really made my day!

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David,
that was a very interesting song on multiple levels! Good job!

First of all, I thought that your approach of starting with a pattern then reverse engineering it into a chord pattern yielded results that sound quite original. I don't think it would be easy to achieve a similar sound just by typing in a bunch of chords then generating a style over the chords in BIAB.

Secondly, I think your use of loops also works to create a unique sound for your song. As a result, I don't think the average person would guess that this song was created with BIAB.

Thirdly, I think your lyrics for this song are very interesting for a variety of reasons. They remind me of Beatle-esque lyrics that could make sense in more than one way, depending on your interpretation.. but at face value the listener has to wonder if they make sense at all.

All in all I think you've come up with something very good here. It is highly listen-able, and it has a very good and unique sound.

One drawback of a chord progression in which the chords keep changing with a single descending note is that you have to take extra pains with your melody, or you're bound to create half-step dissonance between your melody and your chords. I think this song has that dissonance. Maybe it was your intent. However I think that a melody that was written to stay true to those interesting chords would have been even more powerful

Or not. At the end of the song, the writer has all of the creative control. You make the decisions, then the audience says whether or not it worked for them. My report is that the songs construction worked very well ... so well it's hard to put it into words. But, I didn't think the melody was refined enough to become the crowning glory of this excellent song.

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Thank you Pat,

Nice to hear from you again. It's been a while.

Thanks for the insights. Nice to hear from you as always. Hope you are well.

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Learn more about this free update for PowerTracks Pro Audio & download it at www.pgmusic.com/support_windows_pt.htm#2024_5

The Newest RealBand 2024 Update is Here!

The newest RealBand 2024 Build 5 update is now available!

Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.

This free update is available to all RealBand 2024 users. To learn more about this update and download it, head to www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#20245

The Band-in-a-Box® Flash Drive Backup Option

Today (April 5) is National Flash Drive Day!

Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!

For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.

Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.

Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!

Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.

Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!

Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!

With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!

Learn more about this free update for Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows at www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#1111

Band-in-a-Box® 2024 Review: 4.75 out of 5 Stars!

If you're looking for a in-depth review of the newest Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows version, you'll definitely find it with Sound-Guy's latest review, Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows Review: Incredible new capabilities to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs.

A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."

"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."

"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."

Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!

The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!

There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.

If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.

We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!

Congratulations to the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

We've just announced the 2023 User Showcase Award Winners!

There are 45 winners, each receiving a Band-in-a-Box 2024 UltraPAK! Read the official announcement to see if you've won.

Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed!

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