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Hi all,
My guitar teacher is a Mac guy - lives in Europe, and we are about to create some backing tracks. He's not a "MIDI" guy yet - but we are thinking he can create his tracks in Garage Band on the Mac and send them to me. Many tracks with be in 12/8 - not directly supported by BB/RB (not sure if Garage Band supports that time)
I know zero about Garage Band - but for anybody that does - are there any tips you can give about recording both MIDI and audio in Garage band and then exporting for import into Realband or Band in a Box ? - e.g. recommended formats, synching, limitations, gotchas ?
Thanks in advance, Joe V.
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On your teacher's end, if he doesn't use MIDI, then have him just send the tracks as individual audio files, which you can import into RB.
Then you can work with them however you want. If needed, use the ACW to find the chords/tempo. If he can establish a tempo (use a click) it may be even easier. Just set the tempo in RB to match his tempo and import the tracks; no ACW needed.
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That sounds way too easy Rharv ; )
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Even if he does do MIDI audio may be a better choice. Why? Because unless you both have the identical MIDI sound sources and have those sound sources set up identically MIDI may very well sound different on both machines.
For instance take a third party trumpet. If his trumpet sounds like Miles Davis with a 2 semitone pitch bend range and yours sounds like Herb Albert with a 2 octave pitch bend range then the MIDI he sends you would sound terrible on your system.
A non-modified GM sound source is the only way to send MIDI tracks to someone else. The only difference between two different GM#57 trumpets would be the tone of the instrument. Everything else would be identical. Although even that can cause mixing problems.
Good luck and I hope this helps.
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That sounds way too easy Rharv ; ) It is Joe. Musicians worldwide do this all the time. One guy creates individual wav files of each instrument track and sends them to you. You want wav's not compressed MP3's. Not by email because wav files are usually too large for email, use any one of the common cloud services like Dropbox, OneDrive, Google Docs, whatever. You both can plant large files there and the other person logs in and downloads them. Also, put a four count click at the beginning of each track that corresponds to the beginning of each song. That way when you import them they will line up correctly. An example of why is there could be an instrument that doesn't come in until bar 32 or something. If he just sends you a track with that instrument playing immediately it will be playing at the start of the song then you have to go in after the fact and slide it to bar 32. Just put a four count click at the beginning of that track file with the instrument not coming in until bar 32. No problem then. Bob
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There is a different reason people choose midi than audio. Audio lets you keep your instrument. Midi allows you to use any VST and RTaS you want as a sound generator. I use Biab in midi mode for that reason I would rather pick the instruments that I will be using instead of just copying and pasting polished samples I would rather experiment. So they are used for completely different purpose's
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They are both available Use what fits!
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For sharing across DAW platforms, it's been audio for me for the past 10+ years. Far too difficult to try to match the midi sound engine on each end.
Collaborations with people all over the US and Canada, many countries in Europe (UK, Germany, Austria, Norway, Sweden), Australia, etc.
Click tracks are helpful and preferred by me; many DAW software these days do not have the count-in side-stick that PG products have. The other advantage of having a click track is that it can be a sort of check-sum later on in the song, if there's been any drift throughout the song; rare, but it can happen.
Long time ago, I used to use Monkey's audio files for collaborations, but the past 5 years or so, 320kbps mp3 files have been fine, with my collaborators telling me BPM. I have them send a click track, then all of their individual files as separate .mp3 files; making sure they select the entire and same song section for each track export.
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BTW, many of my collaborations are done in February each year, in February Album Writing Month (FAWM) challenge time. This year, I collaborated with folks from Michigan, Norway, Germany, Australia, and the UK. I asked the guy who created FAWM if it would be possible to code something that would show all of the collaborations that happened by the FAWM participants (FAWMers) with connecting lines on a global map. He's a coding genius of sorts and he pulled it off. It's in his blog post here: https://slackprop.wordpress.com/2017/03/07/an-analysis-of-fawm-2017/(Scroll down to the 'Mapping Collaborations' if you just want to look at that part.) I can tell you with almost certainty, nearly every one of those lines was an audio track based collaboration - midi sharing is almost non-existent during FAWM; there's just not time to fart around with trying to get that in play when there's the pressure to write or collaborate on 14 songs in a month's time frame; and most of these collaborations are recorded; some quite exquisitely given the time crunch. -Scott
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