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#368474 - 10/03/16 07:08 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
I have gotten zero plays from it in the many months PGradio has promised that one only needs to post their appropriate Soundcloud tracks in the User Showcase.===I have only used Soundcloud, and have only posted in User Showcase.
Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected.
So it seems to me you may have read a bit too much into their information about this feature smirk

To be fair, though, I also have to admit this also rather looks like yet one more case where the team comes up with a 'nifty new feature', only to seemingly run out of steam with it as time passes. I, for example, haven't really noticed all that much renewing of tunes on these channels lately (I count myself lucky in that sense to have gotten in there early on, while they were still enthusiastic about it).
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#368479 - 10/03/16 07:31 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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I'm not expecting anyone to promote my music, but myunderstanding is that there should be random plays according to category. Correct me if I'm wrong about that, but one would expect that if people are selecting a category and "letting it rip", randomly you should get plays**. If on the other hand there is an algorithm that favors the popular, I could see why something could sit at the bottom forever and never get played. Perhaps that is how it works and is what people here are trying to tell me.

**unless one has only an extremely obscure category. However, I read somewhere earlier in the thread someone had written that it is Soundcloud who actually categorizes stuff, regardless of what tags the user puts in. So, the obscure category thing isn't going to happen, anyway.

Honestly I'm looking at this more as a puzzle than anything. It's true I don't promote my music very much, and for good reason. smile


Edited by DIOECHOOTO (10/03/16 07:33 PM)
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#368481 - 10/03/16 07:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Icelander]
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"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes. Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s). If you mean selected by the user, then the question defaults to what I have already said about random hits.
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#368482 - 10/03/16 07:46 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes. Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s). If you mean selected by the user, then the question defaults to what I have already said about random hits.

You tend to lend credence to the adage: "No good deed goes unpunished!"

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#368485 - 10/03/16 08:47 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Don Gaynor]
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"You tend to lend credence to the adage: "No good deed goes unpunished!""

Um, no that's not me doing that, that's the Universe!

But seriously, Don, what are you trying to say? I don't have a bad attitude about this in the least. My reporting my experience is pretty level and factual in tone. And I'm not sure how the quote you bring up, namely my response to Icelander, fits in to the adage. Who am I "punishing", in your mind? I can't see where anything I reported or remarked even rises to the level of a mild criticism, let alone a bad attitude. My apologies if I have completely misunderstood your remark...but I really don't think I have. You are saying, it seems clear, that PGMusic did something nice that it didn't have to and here I am whining about it and show little appreciation for it. I'd suggest that that is not only reading a whole lot into my sparse remarks, but is a biased view in itself. Because, I have a right to value or not value the "extra", especially if I express myself in a respectful and reasonable way about it. Please show me where I haven't if you disagree.


Edited by DIOECHOOTO (10/03/16 08:49 PM)
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#368502 - 10/04/16 01:04 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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Eric,

I might be missing something but I just followed a song you posted in Users Showcase to Soundcloud, (link)"Your Boring Happiness", and on Soundcloud...



...it shows that your composition has had 60 plays; it also has 3 likes (see highlighted area on the image above).

I wonder if there is some setting on Soundcloud somewhere that you might not have activated that stops you from seeing this.

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#368511 - 10/04/16 04:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Noel96]
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Thanks for looking into it, Noel!
I do (and did) indeed see that the song has been played and liked, but (and as always I could be wrong**) I think each of those plays happened for one of two reasons, neither of which can be attributed to PGRadio play: 1) I had recently submitted the song to the User Showcase and so it was still on the first page or two and people were checking it out. 2) My own promotion, sharing with friends on Facebook.

**especially since I am not a premiere user (or whatever Soundcloud calls their $$ upgrade) and have no access to metrics. However, I will say this, I did keep track.

So, with the possibility of human error (mine) notwithstanding...
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#368530 - 10/04/16 07:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
"Which makes you eligible, doesn't mean you're guaranteed to get selected."

Okay, now that's interesting, Icelander. Selected by whom? If you mean by PGMusic, then yes it all makes sense, they simply haven't chosen my tunes.
Bingo! smile
Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
Here I was thinking that they just pile ALL submitted tunes into the PGRadio station(s).
And in there lies the "reading too much into it" bit, they don't.
Hope that clears things up a bit for you cool
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#368536 - 10/04/16 08:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Icelander]
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Quote:
And in there lies the "reading too much into it" bit, they don't.
Hope that clears things up a bit for you


Yes, absolutely clear now...thanks!
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#368554 - 10/04/16 09:40 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: DIOECHOOTO]
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Originally Posted By: DIOECHOOTO
Yes, absolutely clear now...thanks!
Very good cool
It still might be prudent to stress a few things:

The term "radio" is possibly giving users somewhat the wrong impression of what this feature actually is, or how it actually functions. The important thing to note here is that each of the 'channels' on this thing is essentially a playlist, with all its elements working exactly the same way as any playlist you may for instance have on your local/personal media player - and thus it does not behave like your 'normal' radio popularity charter, as you might perhaps expect/assume from the usage of the word "radio".
This also means that the order (and indeed the number) of these tracks on each of these playlist is fixed and does not change depending on for instance how often your track is being played by subscribers to the channel. The only way it might change is if the creators of these playlists decides to go in and manually do so by hand.
So for those of you who want to keep track of just how much exposure your track is getting, your best bet is to look at the SC statistics for your track, specifically the number of plays section.
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#369369 - 10/10/16 04:56 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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SC defines a play as simply hitting the play button which should cause any member to view their totals with some skepticism. Two bars in and somebody doesn't like the tune and exits -- yet that constitutes a play. With YouTube you can track how long they stayed with the track. That's the reason we create lyric videos for YouTube.

As Icelander mention the stats offer some insight. With an upper tier SC account you can look at the number of "plays" by member, by geographic area and other variables which can help give you some idea of the popularity of your track...as can the comments, number of likes and additions to other playlists.

We've found that when PG Music features one of our tracks as a "Hot Topic" the plays always Increase... a lot.
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#373319 - 11/06/16 09:32 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is coming... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: Kemmrich]
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Well if Kevin's in ...

Here's a playlist ...https://soundcloud.com/user-334840828/sets/marc-glinert-originals

and if you need the original song addresses they are here :

soundcloud.com/user-334840828/better-of-me
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/second-thoughts
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/no-second-chance
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/emergenza
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/dont-get-caught
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/the-right-one
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/2480-days
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/olympic-dream
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/ribbon-of-black
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/rock-it-the-hard-way
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/pulse
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/losers-celebration
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/brightest-light
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/writing-pop-songs
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/buy-buy-buy
soundcloud.com/user-334840828/journeys-end


"Title and background information about the song."
included on my SoundCloud/SoundClick pages

"Indicate which tracks were recorded by you, and which tracks were generated by Band-in-a-Box or RealBand."
pretty much everything recorded by me, but Band-in-a-Box used as an invaluable composition tool. PTPA used as my main DAW software.

"If Band-in-a-Box or RealBand have been used, please provide information as to which styles or RealTracks were used. (tip: In Band-in-a-Box, the Song Memo contains the names of the RealTracks used, and you can copy/paste from that.)
List other programs used in the production (Sonar, Cubase etc.)"
As regards the PG Music software, no real audio - only MIDI / Audacity


Edited by mglinert (11/07/16 12:21 AM)
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#378877 - 12/01/16 01:38 PM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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#418678 - 06/21/17 02:53 AM [User Showcase] Re: PG Radio is here!... on SoundCloud ... please get a SoundCloud account! [Re: PeterGannon]
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PG Music News
Announcing…The Birth of a Song (w/Floyd Jane)

We are excited to announce the release of a new project: The Birth of a Song (w/Floyd Jane)

Songwriter Floyd Jane shows the songwriting process from inspiration to performance and publication: http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=IYMMZVvQdCw

The idea for this project came about when many members on this forum and elsewhere were asking questions about the song writing process. There are many aspects, and many parts of it necessary to create a song, get it arranged, performed, and then published on the internet. So we asked the great songwriter Floyd Jane, who is a regular member on this forum, if he could help. Floyd agreed and was even able to collaborate with other forum members, Janice and Bud. The result is this video we put together that you can see on YouTube or Facebook, called "The Birth of a Song (w/Floyd Jane)".

We hope this video helps other songwriters with their songwriting process, and also shows them tools that are available to them along the way. Also, we mention this User Showcase Forum, and hope to see many new aspiring or accomplished songwriters join this community :blush:

A big Thank You to Floyd for sharing your knowledge with the community and making this possible. And to Janice and Bud for your great collaboration!

Here is Floyd's original forum post for his song "A Little Bit Of Me": http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=433190

Check out Floyd / Janice & Bud’s music here:
http://floydjane.com/
https://www.janiceandbud.com/

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows - 49 Requests Fulfilled!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows boasts more than 50 new features... and a lot of the new features fill the requests posted by program users!

Some of these include:

Q. I am learning guitar. The RealTracks are very helpful in that I can hear great guitar players, and most of the tracks have tab and notation as well. But there is much more to guitar, could you include some videos of some of the RealTracks Artists? Because I would learn much more from seeing a guitarist than just hearing them.

A. We have a major new feature called "Video RealTracks." These work and sound like RealTracks, but you get to see a video of the Guitarist (or whatever instrument) playing as well. The amazing thing is that this works with any chord progression you type in. So, if you want to learn to play like the great guitarist Brent Mason, for example, you can type in chords to any progression you are interested in, and then hear and see a video of Brent soloing over your progression. Now you can learn much quicker, as it helps to see how a musician is performing, as well as to hear.

Q. I love the Audio Chord Wizard, as it figures out chords from mp3 and other audio files. But it is a separate program from Band-in-a-Box, and I can’t go back and forth to change things easily.

A. We've solved that, as BiaB 2018 has integrated the Audio Chord Wizard directly into Band-in-a-Box. Now load an audio file into BiaB, open the Audio Edit Window – Audio Chord Wizard mode, and let it automatically figure out the bar lines and chords for the song.

Q. I like to save songs as MP3 files, and can't do this with BiaB, except a very low quality one, 64kbps.

A. We've improved this, by adding support for Windows Media Foundation. This allows you to save MP3 in your choice of resolutions, up to very high 320mpbs. Better still, it works on current versions of Windows (Windows 7,8,10) and also on older versions too (Vista, XP).

We've answered 49 questions - review all of these answers on our forum post "49 of your Problems solved? List of 49 Requests fulfilled in Band-in-a-Box 2018" here.

All of the new features in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows can be reviewed at http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.new.htm

RealBand® 2018 for Windows Build 3 Update Available!

RealBand 2018 users can update their version with the latest patch, Build 3. Download this patch here

Summary of Changes since 2018 Build 3:

Added: Section Numbers supported. All section letter menus now include numbers 1 through 9 in addition to letters A through Z.
Fixed: Section letters in Notation Window were not being resized if the notation was zoomed in/out
Fixed: RealBand might freeze when generating audio harmonies
Fixed: Loading in a BB song (MGU/SGU) or generating realtracks could freeze up the program.
Fixed: Chords in Notation/LeadSheet on 1st beat of a bar were being drawn too close to bar lines.
Fixed: Support for XP and Vista.

http://www.pgmusic.com/support.realband.htm#2018_3

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Build 505 Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can update their version with the latest patch - Build 505.

This patch can be downloaded here.

Summary of changes for Build 505:

Added: You can now put Section Numbers in your song. Previously you could only use letters A-Z, but now you can use 1-9 as well.
Added:You can now filter styles in the StylePicker for styles that contain Video RealTracks.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box would crash with error "Procedure entry point MFTEnumEx could not be found in the Dynamic Link Library Mfplat.DLL" while starting up if using Windows Vista.
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box would crash with error message "dwmapi.dll cannot be found" while starting up if using Windows XP.
Fixed: The Transcribe feature in the Audio Edit window was not always working.
Fixed: The Windows Audio Devices dialog might show garbage text for names of devices if not running Band-in-a-Box in English.
Fixed: There was no Quality selector in the Render to Audio File dialog if rendering MP3 on Windows 7 or earlier.
Fixed: There were visual artifacts in the leadsheet & notation windows when moving the cursor.
Fixed: Using the Transpose or stretching features in the Audio Edit window might cause an access violation if the audio track is mono.
Improved: Band-in-a-Box will start up faster.
Improved: Importing ABC Notation files has been improved.
Updated: Help file and manuals.
Updated: RealTracks Artist bio's.

http://www.pgmusic.com/support_windowsupdates.htm#505

New! Video RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows!

NEW with Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows... Video RealTracks Sets!

Video RealTracks allow you to see the RealTracks artist playing that track - you can use them just like any other RealTrack, and you can generate a video which will display the musician playing your song exactly as you hear it. You can also include a chord sheet or notation in the video.
TIP: If you load one of the video RealTracks bands, you will have video RealTracks on 5 tracks, and you can make a video of 1-5 musicians!

We've added Video RealTracks Set 1: Pop Ballad Band to our Free Bonus PAK included in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows packages during our December special.
Video RealTracks Set 2: Country TrainBeat Band is included in the 2018 49-PAK, along with 40 Bonus UNRELEASED RealTracks, 22 MIDI SuperTracks, 101 Instrumental Studies, and Artist Performance Set 8: Traditional Songs Sung by Béatrix Méthé.

SPECIAL OFFER: During our Band-in-a-Box® 2018 Holiday Special, purchase our "Video RealTracks Set 3-6 Special Bundle Offer" to complete your purchase with the remaining Video RealTracks Sets for the low price of just $49! http://www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.videorealtracks.htm

Learn more about the new Video RealTracks and see them in action: Video link - "Video RealTracks Sets 1-6 for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows"

Video - 202 NEW RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows!

With the release of Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows we also released 202 NEW RealTracks (in Sets 278-300)! Listen to all the individual demos here: www.pgmusic.com/bbwin.202newrealtracks.htm, or watch our Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows - 202 New RealTracks Overview Video: www.pgmusic.com/?vid=qDFYZMjrzAI

Get all 202 new RealTracks when you purchase any Band-in-a-Box® 2018 UltraPAK, Audiophile Edition, or the PlusPAK upgrade, on sale until December 31st!

NEW! Xtra Styles PAK 4 - Available for both Windows and Mac!

We've just released Xtra Styles PAK 4 with over 150 new RealStyles for Rock-Pop, Jazz, Country, and 'Folk and Beyond' styles! These new RealStyles will work with the RealTracks included in any Band-in-a-Box® version 2017 or higher UltraPAK or Audiophile Edition.

To add to the excitement of this release, we're putting all of our Xtra Styles PAKs on SALE! Until December 31st, purchase any Xtra Styles PAK (1 - 4) for just $29 each! (reg. $49) http://www.pgmusic.com/xtrastyles.php?os=win

Listen to all the demos of these new Xtra Styles here, or check out this video: www.pgmusic.com/?vid=Zl_wr47d2V0

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