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Apologies if this topic has been covered before, but is there essentially likely to be any significant performance difference between a single track regenerated and saved each time as a .Wav, and those produced as 'Multiriffs' in Realband? Do they use the same process?
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alanmorrow,
I don't know if regeneration in Band-in-a-Box and RealBand use the same process but the results are significantly different because one, Band-in-a-Box, changes a complete track while the other, RealBand, changes only the highlighted area of a track.
I consider the RealBand multiriff feature to be more powerful than the Band-in-a-Box regeneration feature because multiriff is more selective, offers more choices with each use and you do not risk loosing whatever portion of a track that you might like and want to keep.
If you're not familiar with RealBand it is worth taking the time to explore it's features. I believe the features of the two programs, Band-in-a-Box and RealBand, complement each other. Both are useful but have different strengths and weaknesses.
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What Jim said...
They are two different things. Both programs support re-generation. BIAB will regenerate all tracks, unless frozen. RealBand "can" regenerate all designated BIAB tracks (blue tracks), but you will have to regenerate non-BIAB tracks manually. RealBand can also, as Jim mentioned, just regenerate a portion of a track.
Multi-riff, however, is the ability to select part of a track, or a whole track, and be presented with up to seven concurrent versions of that highlighted area (whereas regeneration is one-at-a-time). You can then audition and select one or more of the versions to add to your RealBand project. And then you can do it again to get seven more. Very cool feature.
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Thanks both for your help. All is clear now!
Allan
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RB is even better than that Allan. As I think you know, the chord grid controls what is generated. Since RB is a DAW, you can treat each track separately. That means you can generate a track or multiriff in this case, then go to the chord grid and change it. You might want to change the rhythm of the chords a bit or maybe different chord extensions or subs. After making the changes you can generate a brand new track without changing what you already did.
I do that with Real Drums all the time by changing the part markers. A part marker forces a drum fill so if you don't like some of the fills, change the part markers and generate another drum track. Then just for fun pick a completely different RD style and generate that.
These tricks can give you a whole lot of different variations to construct your song from.
The way I look at the differences between the two programs is Biab is great for instant gratification while RB is a full DAW that also generates Biab parts. You can spend a whole day with one song in RB if you're so inclined.
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Apologies if this topic has been covered before, but is there essentially likely to be any significant performance difference between a single track regenerated and saved each time as a .Wav, and those produced as 'Multiriffs' in Realband? Do they use the same process? I think they will be adding a MultiRiff feature in Biab. You can have 2 instances of Biab running at the same time. So you just save your song to stereo wav then load the SGU in a new instance of Biab, and the stereo wav in the audio track (File > Import Audio..), set all other tracks to the MultiRiff instrument, this will give you 7 MultiRiffs to choose from when you hit Play/Generate. Using F5 to set the start and end of the MultiRiff. The MultiRiff of your choosing is dragged via DROP WAV to the song folder then loaded into the audio track of the other instance of Biab (File > Import Audio..). http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=378682
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I think they will be adding a MultiRiff feature in Biab. I thought this would come a long time ago when it was first presented as an option and with the demonstration provided at the time. Peter sounded excited to implement. But alas... 
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I think they will be adding a MultiRiff feature in Biab. OMG I hope so! That would make BIAB complete for me!
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Jazzmammal,
Thank you. Hadn't really been aware of RB's versatility until now. Will be especially useful, as you mention, in tinkering with drum fills as many of them have been rather 'samey'. Thought I was stuck with the situation!
Allan
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