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Regardless of what all this means I really feel strongly about one thing. China, India, Russia, Asia, Mexico, Central and South America, the Middle East and the rest of the crap third world are such horrible polluters that we could completely bankrupt this country and lower our greenhouse emissions to virtually zero and it would not make one bit of difference. China negotiated a 20 year "catch up" period before they have to start with serious greenhouse restrictions. And after 20 years, those who believe they will actually do it please raise your hands. I have such a deal for you, it's gonna truly make you rich...

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Bob I agree 100%.


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Dome Homes seem to hang in there through hurricanes, quakes and tornadoes.

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Both floyd and Tom good. Both were in direct path. Best to all others!


Really glad to hear that!


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Bob I'm sorry I can't let this one go. It's too important. The elephant in the room amongst the world's worst polluters is the United States. China has recently overtaken the USA as the worst offender year on year but if you look at total carbon emissions over all years the USA is alone at the top of the pack. The point is if the USA committed to reducing greenhouse gases to virtually zero it would make a huge difference, not no difference as you stated. Many developing countries including China (leading the way in developing alternative energy sources) have gone beyond promises to put in place carbon reduction strategies. It's not really fair to pick on poorer countries when the USA is back pedalling on the few promises they have made.

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In the United States:

Americans constitute 5% of the world's population but consume 24% of the world's energy.

On average, one American consumes as much energy as
  • 2 Japanese
  • 6 Mexicans
  • 13 Chinese
  • 31 Indians
  • 128 Bangladeshis
  • 307 Tanzanians
  • 370 Ethiopians

If undeveloped countries consumed at the same rate as the US, four complete planets the size of the Earth would be required.

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Matcham, I could rip apart your premise point by point, you wouldn't agree and this could go on and on. I won't do that because this is the wrong forum for it. I've carried this on too far as it is. This is Notes thread and we're all concerned about him and his wife.

You sound like a nice person, if you ever need any assistance with this software or digital audio in general, just ask I'll be happy to help if I can.

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Bob I'm sorry I can't let this one go. It's too important. The elephant in the room amongst the world's worst polluters is the United States. China has recently overtaken the USA as the worst offender year on year but if you look at total carbon emissions over all years the USA is alone at the top of the pack. The point is if the USA committed to reducing greenhouse gases to virtually zero it would make a huge difference, not no difference as you stated. Many developing countries including China (leading the way in developing alternative energy sources) have gone beyond promises to put in place carbon reduction strategies. It's not really fair to pick on poorer countries when the USA is back pedalling on the few promises they have made.

Of course the USA has been a leading polluter and continues its role. And of course the USA could improve the world by going greener. And we have probably already missed the huge opportunity of being a leading alternative energy developer. But hey, we're gonna open up new coal mines because that is the future!

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I'm actually open to having my premises ripped apart point by point but agree we are already pushing the limits of forum etiquette and should let it lie. You go your way and I'll go mine as a wise man once said. And no hard feelings.

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Great news so far that our family are safe.


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If any one wants to read more about energy consumption here are a few articles on said subject. Note that all do not agree on who is first and depending on what side of the discussion you are on you can back it up with this data.

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/The-Worlds-10-Biggest-Energy-Gluttons.html

https://top5ofanything.com/list/7f673853/Countries-that-Consume-the-Most-Total-Energy-

(note the amount of coal that China uses)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_energy_consumption_per_capita

(a little misleading as China and other countries have large populations)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_primary_energy_consumption_and_production


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A photo to put in perspective what has happened in Florida with Irma. This is a large oak tree that thankfully missed our house. Had it been one of the many a bit closer and fallen it would not have been good. Now we are 200 miles inland AND Irma was reduced to a tropical storm. Yet trees like this are down all over Ga and a million are w/o power. I can't imagine what the Fl folks went through. Our town looks like a war zone in places. The highest gust recorded in my area was 68mph and we have forum members who experienced twice that!

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I'm glad it missed your house and that no one got hurt. I feel your pain as we lost 4 trees during a high wind storm with gushes up to 80 MPH. Luckily they all missed our house also. Rain soaked ground and high winds are not a good combination.


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very glad to read the phrase "missed our house"

How many trees are down on your property" Do you need friends with chain saws to help you clean up??

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I was in Biloxi MS for Camille ('69) - THAT was REALLY bad (and I'm from Johnstown PA, you'll get it if you look it up) as well as three other large typhoons in early '70's in various locations in S.E.A, including Nora, I guess I'm just lucky that way wink , not to mention an actual war zone, multiple times, in that same time frame and area.

I am truly glad that tree missed your house, I really am. I wish NO ONE harm or ill will (well, that's not completely true, there is a group of "people" I would nuke out of existence tomorrow and sleep like a baby for the rest of my life. No, I do not mean NoKo (yet), but that's for a less genteel forum)

Hope you, and all affected forums members, get things back to normal soon

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This whole thread grows very tiresome and since NOT even close to anything music related I recommend it be locked (it will get out of hand).

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very glad to read the phrase "missed our house"

How many trees are down on your property" Do you need friends with chain saws to help you clean up??


Pat, that's kind of you. We have a five mile hiking/biking trail on our and a neighbors property and haven't yet assessed all that will need to be done. But the local mountain bikers like our trail and I sure will be willing to help restore them. Access to our house was spared and a private road we have through the property only has a couple of trees on it that I can cut. Some of the big ones like in the pic can just rot where they are. We had a violent thunder storm nine years ago that laid down about 20 old oaks.

Now those folks in Florida are the ones that are working their butts off. Talked to one this morning and he had a 12 hour session with the chainsaw yesterday alone! Makes my situation seem minor. Thanks again and mega great thought to our Fl members!

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Happy to hear you guys are safe! My Floridian friends are also safe, thank goodness.


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So you have firewood for the next what, 17 years? Look at the size of that tree!!!


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Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers. We have an ongoing tragic situation here in SW Florida. The eye went directly over our house with winds clocked at 142 mph. Trees and power lines down everywhere and houses destroyed. An estimated 2 weeks before power is restored. Our chainsaws and generators are running non stop. Gas lines over a mile long if you're lucky enough to find any. Driving is the definition of anarchy with no stop lights anywhere. No ice and very little food. The flooding is unimaginable. We have many friends who have lost everything. On top of all this we have quite a few family members in Houston who are under water. Mother Nature is pissed at us. Kind of like how I feel about anyone who wants to close this thread because they find it tiresome. Come on down here I'll show you tired. Thanks again everyone. We will get through this, Tom

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most recent storm path puts Tommy Adams and Floyd Jane directly in the crosshairs. Please check in later to let us know you're OK... Likewise anybody else whose lives are impacted by Irma.


I live in Pinellas county (the little finger by Tampa) but we evacuated to Tallahassee.


I live in the county as well, and luckily, nothing hit my area. I evaluated to Georgia.


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Thanks to all for the well wishes and prayers. We have an ongoing tragic situation here in SW Florida. The eye went directly over our house with winds clocked at 142 mph. Trees and power lines down everywhere and houses destroyed. An estimated 2 weeks before power is restored. Our chainsaws and generators are running non stop. Gas lines over a mile long if you're lucky enough to find any. Driving is the definition of anarchy with no stop lights anywhere. No ice and very little food. The flooding is unimaginable. We have many friends who have lost everything. On top of all this we have quite a few family members in Houston who are under water. Mother Nature is pissed at us. Kind of like how I feel about anyone who wants to close this thread because they find it tiresome. Come on down here I'll show you tired. Thanks again everyone. We will get through this, Tom


Man! I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to go through a storm like that, must have been a terrifying experience. And then the aftermath as well, too much!
All the best to you and yours!

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