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#429606 - 09/12/17 04:10 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: Blake]
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Ah, I didn't realise that this feature didn't exist in the earlier Mac versions - as you say, I was using Windows in 2007, and (until I bought the 2016Pro version for Mac) had continued to use a Windows version in a Virtual machine on my Mac from 2013 onwards.

Although the Mac 2017 version will store and print out the Tempo, Style etc fields from the Print Options dialogue, it doesn't show the Copyright notice on the lead sheet.

This may be part of the same bug as affected Manhattan and Two Sleepy People.

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#429622 - 09/12/17 08:06 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: foxylady]
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So iff you wanna talk "lack of compatibility", then perhaps between platforms is the bigger issue here, then... just saying whistle
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#429629 - 09/12/17 10:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: Icelander]
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Point taken!

But I didn't know that when I started this thread, and it turns out that the problem wasn't one of a lack of compatibility, but a bug in the Mac implementation of BIAB which was revealed by an update to MacOS Sierra.

I still believe that backward compatibility is a desirable goal, and also that it should be possible to "Save As" an earlier version, albeit with loss of some features.

I'm thinking here of sharing files with other musical friends for rehearsal purposes where the friends might not wish to shell out the cash for RealTracks etc, but would want to be able to transpose for their instruments, play with a MIDI backing track, and create a PDF lead sheet.

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#429668 - 09/13/17 10:53 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: foxylady]
w Offline
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foxylady,

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I still believe that backward compatibility is a desirable goal, and also that it should be possible to "Save As" an earlier version, albeit with loss of some features.


I fully agree with your comments foxylady.

In fact i have some Apple midi/audio/video software that allows backward compatibility. Which as you note makes it much easier for project sharing especially important with the Mac Operating System upgrades with all the inevitable bugs.

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#429669 - 09/13/17 11:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: foxylady]
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Ok, perhaps I should clarify that my "just saying" quip wasn't so much aimed at the OP as the PG staff that I now know are 'listening in' on this conversation.

My "Platform Differences" tune is one I do tend to chime out at pretty much any chance I get whenever I see an opening for it - and you just gave me one wink
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#429685 - 09/13/17 02:00 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: Icelander]
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No offence taken - I could hear the characteristic sound of a hobby-horse being saddled up for some regular exercise...

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#429688 - 09/13/17 02:18 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: foxylady]
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Very good, you clearly 'get' me then - and what a picture you paint there as well, I might add grin
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#429870 - 09/15/17 10:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Macintosh] Re: Lack of backward compatibility - using 2017 for Mac with older MGU files [Re: Icelander]
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Originally Posted By: Icelander
...I also did not get any sounds from the Soloist channel, nor did it show the correct instrument label in Mixer compared to Pipeline's screenshot.
Right, some further elaboration on these two symptoms after more testing (and more patches):

1. The 'no sound' issue is only occurring if I press the "Solo" button but not if I use the "Mute" button to manually isolate the Soloist track. And this odd behaviour is limited to just the Soloist track.
2. The 'wrong label' is something I've seen/reported before and is really baffling for its inconsistent behaviour, but occurs a great deal more often with pre-existing older files so I think it's relevant to this thread. I for example now know with further tests that it doesn't always give me the 'Voice Doo's' label like I thought, but rather each time I've opened this same song I get a different label (but not the correct one!), regardless of the method of how I opened the file.
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