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#429960 - 09/16/17 11:21 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] BIAB Songs archives?
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I have the BIAB songs archive from the Yahoo Groups pages, but I was wondering if anything newer has been established somewhere?

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#430057 - 09/17/17 08:33 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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There may be but a lot of Biab songs websites have been taken down due to copyright violations. The reason for that is those songfiles contain melodies.

What types of songs are you looking for?

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#430060 - 09/17/17 09:27 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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I know you have lots for sale, I am looking more for user groups where BIAB user share charts (NON-Melody). Not looking to buy anything, sorry.

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#430076 - 09/17/17 12:44 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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I think perhaps you may be referring to the other Bob, Bob 'Notes' Norton, who does indeed sell his products (of excellent quality).
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#430087 - 09/17/17 01:52 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I think perhaps you may be referring to the other Bob, Bob 'Notes' Norton, who does indeed sell his products (of excellent quality).


hahaha totally correct Matt, my bad jazzmammal, sorry.

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#430088 - 09/17/17 01:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
There may be but a lot of Biab songs websites have been taken down due to copyright violations. The reason for that is those songfiles contain melodies.

What types of songs are you looking for?

Bob


So now that the embarrasing moment is over hahaha!....nothing in particular...more just a place where one can upload charts and swap around with others....there are some forums I go to where they have active user content, but this one (BIAB) does not seem to have a dedicate section for it?? They have user tracks and other stuff, but nothing for just sharing charts only.

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#430090 - 09/17/17 01:55 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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It's not that important really, was just wondering mostly hahaha!

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#430111 - 09/17/17 05:56 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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The beauty of Biab allows us to make our own backing tracks to famous songs. Now that we can add so many different tracks as an overall backing accompaniment, I haven't searched for an archived list in a while.

One of my favorite things to do with Biab is to take a song and make the backing how I want it to sound. That is where I get most of my joy working with Biab.

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#430112 - 09/17/17 06:01 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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Just google BIAB song files. Lots of hits.
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#430195 - 09/18/17 08:37 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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Perhaps this site could host a new forum called "Sharing BIAB Covers" or "Accompaniment Only" or "Music Minus 1" (i think Jamie Aebersold (sp?) might have something to say about that one) that would allow those who want a place share arrangements of cover tunes.

The host (PG Music) should set the rules (no melodies, no $$, credits, etc)
as well as providing the necessary storage/policing, etc.
No doubt some extra work for someone at PG Music.


It could be a great place for those of us who build arrangements for cover songs we perform to exchange and compare our work.

It could also be a great forum to show what can be done with biab.

Hearing other peoples original work is interesting.
Clearly some users are more talented than I.

However, my primary use of BIAB is to build backing track for instrumental guitar performance. I'd love to see what others are doing.
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#430197 - 09/18/17 08:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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I have asked for it before, but I wish BIAB had a batch feature to strip out melodies from MGU files and save a whole group as SGU files, just for the purpose of sharing. You can batch convert to MIDI or audio, but you can't batch convert from MGU to SGU.
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#430252 - 09/18/17 08:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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Mrgeeze, I doubt Jamey Abersold has any claim to the Music Minus One (MMO) trademark. I played along with LP records with that name in the late 1950s.
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#431013 - 09/24/17 01:27 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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I think this concept goes against PGM policy. Have any of us ever seen official advertising from PG saying how great Biab is for creating covers of famous songs?

The answer to that is a big NO and the reason why is obvious. Considering the company won't even put the correct names to demo songs that are clearly a classic tune based on the chords, they're not about to create some repository of those even without the melodies. If they did something like that I'll bet we couldn't use the correct names so we'd be left with guessing which song is what and we would be PM'ing each other to get that info. I can see it now, here's a post on that new forum:

Here's a very famous song done by some good Detroit rockers around 1972. Hope you like it.

You play it and all you hear is the chords using one of the rock styles. No melody, no song specific licks. Gee, that sounds useful...

Or for jazz:

Here's a great tune done around 1942 by a certain feathered sax player...

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#431016 - 09/24/17 01:51 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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I’d rather create my own arrangements. Doesn’t take long for a song, as we know----especially if you have access to the chord progression and have some idea how you’d like to present the song. Back in the early days, I downloaded a batch of BIAB song files from somewhere. However, I wound up changing the chords, styles, etc. to suit my own interpretation of the songs. Works best that way for me. I generally play live straight from the laptop, with BIAB 2017. However, I played a solo brunch today on guitar, with wav files I had mixed from BIAB. The tracks really sounded clean and full, played from a tablet through a stereo sound system. May have to start working more that way.

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#431050 - 09/24/17 04:57 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: joden]
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It doesn't take long for a cover song file to become outdated. Every year new RealTracks and styles are released and technology is updated. It doesn't take many upgrades to make the "greatest cover ever" obsolete.

Some users select styles and create a chord progression for each instrument in order to get the instrument to play exactly what is intended. Then they freeze the instrument and proceed to the next instrument.

"The best cover" is very subjective and depends on the patience and skill level of the user.
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#431109 - 09/25/17 07:04 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: BIAB Songs archives? [Re: Jim Fogle]
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FWIW - If I were to do covers using RTs I would do it in RB and not BiaB. Why? Because I could regenerate only certain measures while retaining the rest of the track. Once that track was finished I'd move onto the next track.

Note this is from someone who 1-uses MIDI for covers because MIDI is more flexible editing wise and 2- one who does not use RB.

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