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#436157 - 11/01/17 06:52 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: Larry Kehl]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Kehl
I was about to ping you to see if you had it solved or paved over it.

Only trouble with not knowing what caused "it" and what "it" was means: "it" could bite ya again.

Larry


It did bite me again. I installed the backup image and all was fine. I added the three Kontakt instruments and one Kontakt update (5.7.1) and all was well. With Defender turned off I shut down the computer for the night. The next day the Defender problem back.

So I ran Chkdsk c: and it found no bad sectors or other problems. I ran chkdsk c:/f/r/x and it went to 11% and stayed there for quite awhile. I turned off the monitor, turned it on about 6 hours later and the desktop was up. No chkdsk or chkdsk log! Is this normal if all is OK?
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#436160 - 11/01/17 07:18 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: MarioD]
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Normal for chkdsk to take that long? No, not usually but it’s not unheard of. I would keep an eye on it.
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#436163 - 11/01/17 07:31 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Normal for chkdsk to take that long? No, not usually but it’s not unheard of. I would keep an eye on it.


It is a 1TB drive. That is why I thought that it should take a long time.
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#436167 - 11/01/17 07:59 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: MarioD]
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Unfortunately, when you turn off stuff that Microsoft likes to maintain control of, there can be consequences. Good luck going forward.
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#436196 - 11/01/17 12:01 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: MarioD]
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A on my 2TB drives takes WELL over 5 hours, but there should have log

look in the Event viewer: run "eventvwr" look in Windows Logs -> Application and wait for it to update then look for event with source called chkdsk I guess date would have been yesterday(?)


In one case with a one bad sector it took closer to six hours but it was in a non-critical location (non-OS related).

That's why use the additional /C and /I switches (at first) - it may miss something on first run but it will find big problems a lot faster (MINUTES not hours).

But it sounds like a configuration (registry muck up)/conflict with other SW (other A/V and malware and firewalls) and/or Services issue(s) at this point, especially since you ran CHKDSK twice (before and after re-image) and you have already run SFC before with no issues


I think I missed the details on Windows Defender - you turned it off " or your OTHER A/V turned it off? In my case when I install my A/V install it turned off that part of windows defender ditto my firewall. Only thing I tuned off was the "App & browser Control" section (you don't need even more interrupts running) as well as "Family Options" but that's Win. Def. in update 1703

I Haven't allowed update 1709 on yet and I just put 1703 (spring update) on two weeks ago - and it was a much different Defender than were previous two (1603? or 1507)


hope you find it and squash it

Larry

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no help to you but I have multiple boot drives so I boot into Win 7 to run CHKDSK c: /f /r on my Win 10 drive (no need to use the dismount switch /X) and it actually runs faster, I reverse it for Win 7 drive - run chkdsk from Win 10.

Won't work from my Win XP drive becasue I have to hide both the Win 7 and Win 10 drives from Win XP (otherwise Win XP overwrites those OSs' restore points) - but WIN 7 and Win 10 see and can perform checks on the WIN XP drive.










Edited by Larry Kehl (11/01/17 12:01 PM)
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#436234 - 11/01/17 05:52 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: Larry Kehl]
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Hi Larry,

I just triple checked the logs and there is no mention of chkdsk. I have no idea what happened.

The only time that this computer is on-line is to update software that either is a PITA to do off-line or has no off-line service available. Thus my Ethernet card is mostly disabled. I also keep Defender turned off because if it is on it has a propensity to slow my DAW to a crawl. I also keep anti-malwarebytes turned off for the same reason.

After each software update I update and run both Defender and anti-malwarebytes. After they are finished those two are turned off and the Ethernet card disabled. Note that no other anti-virus was installed on this computer.

The system was running fine, as I was able to turn those off and on with no problem. I turned them off, shut down my system, and went to bed. The next day I had the problem all over again.

Today I DLed the free Avast anti-virus. Thus far all is fine, i.e. I have shut down and started it with no problems. We shall see in the morning if all is still OK. Note I scanned everything with Avast and it didn't find any viruses either.

Thanx for you time and help - MarioD

PS - I'm going to buy another 1 TB HD just in case.
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#436242 - 11/01/17 06:18 PM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: MarioD]
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Hey Mario, for the network on/off, I just use the following 2 DOS command lines each in their own .BAT file with shortcuts on the desktop. That way I can turn the network off and on with a click.

I also have the DISABLE one set up in Scheduled tasks to turn off the network overnight each night at the same time and have the window prompt me that it's going to turn off in 1 minute. That way I can stop it if I'm working on something online.

netsh interface set interface "Ethernet" ENABLED

netsh interface set interface "Ethernet" DISABLED

I don't turn off anything else and Microsoft seems to not have any issues with updates.

Also "Ethernet" above is the name of my main network connection. Could be different in your case.
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#437907 - 11/14/17 05:49 AM [Help! Tech S.O.S (Off topic)] Re: I need some computer help [Re: MarioD]
Paj Offline
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Mario,

(1) This might help:

It was sent to me by Microsoft after a posting to their community:

(First, set a Restore Point, just in case.)

Open up your Command Prompt window (Start Menu-->Windows System-->Command Prompt) and type (note the spaces):

sfc /scannow

[Shift]-[Ctrl]-[Enter] to run as administrator

After the error report, even if nothing is found, type:

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

[Shift]-[Ctrl]-[Enter] to run as administrator

I hope that the same magic occurs for you that occurred for me---everything was back as it should be. Also, I noticed no recent data losses.

(2) I'd say you're due for an update. The Windows 10 Fall Creators Update cleared up issues for me, including a Windows Defender error that was introduced by Driver Assist (I do NOT recommend this program) and could not be rectified by the outdated version of Windows 10. It also makes Edge run faster, more reliably, resolves issues for it, and does not delete Favorites for Edge like previous updates did (although, I would still export my bookmarks/favorites from within Edge before I updated, using the export option in the upper-right "•••" menu (Settings->Import from another browser->Export to file). I'd say you're due for an update.

Good luck.

Paj
8^)



Edited by Paj (11/15/17 11:39 AM)

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