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#435415 - 10/27/17 04:29 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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#435500 - 10/27/17 10:42 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: 44kfl]
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Originally Posted By: 44kfl
Love it!

Thanks for letting me be a part of it,

Thanks Scott, Ember, and all who mentioned my guitar work

Great song from two of my favs,

love the video too!

Kenny


You nailed the fiddle dancing and the counterpart chorus. Both were big contributions!

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#435530 - 10/27/17 02:37 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Love the way you guys tell a story.
Catchy upbeat tune- got my attention.
Nice work as well Kenny.
Rob

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#435600 - 10/27/17 07:33 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Robertkc]
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Originally Posted By: Robertkc
Janice, Bud & Kenny,
An intro that grabs, lyrics that cut deep, the almost duelling fiddle/guitar sound and a tough-enough Janice vocal adds up to one of the best country rockers I`ve heard on this forum.
This is a sound that`s not easy to achieve so I appreciate the details on production...and commend your taking the time to get it right. You surely did!

Robert


Thank you for both listening and for taking time to note the different aspects of the production. And of course for your kind remarks about those aspects. We much appreciate it!

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#435613 - 10/27/17 11:25 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hello, Janice, Bud and Kenny

Great Collaboration!
The chords of intro.and Kenny's guitar are really nice.
As Ember said, the guitar "dances with the fiddle" on this one.
Janice's vocals properly reach us quiet desperation.
And really nice mixing.
Once Neutron is used, I also cannot stop using it because of its surprising effect.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi

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#435647 - 10/28/17 06:55 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Well heck...seems I'm late to THIS party! All the good stuff has already been said...

Nonetheless... an excellent Rock write. Very cool, thoughtful lyric and a totally rhythmic melody that carries it along.

Janice's vocal sounds like this is the song she was meant to sing (but, then, she makes everything sound like that). Kenny's harmonies work nicely.

Love the snare! Kenny's guitar work shines. There is definitely a Mellencamp vide to the whole thing. The mix is excellent.

Sounds like a classic.

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#435671 - 10/28/17 10:48 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Dear Ms. Janice & "Bud"...

"Quiet Desperation" is a textbook example of the songwriting wisdom that "socially conscious" songs are even more powerful when the accompanying music sounds great!

The song has a hard-drivin' feeling that makes me want to shove my fist in the air and say, "Hell, no, that ain't fair!" to the observant lyrics.

To everyone involved in the production I say, "You really got it down on this one!"

In solidarity :),

LOREN
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#435703 - 10/28/17 02:00 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Al-David]
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Originally Posted By: Al-David
Hey Everyone,

Super production! Tip of the hat to all. Kenny's licks are terrific; has Janice ever uttered a bad note - doubt it- Bud is a master "knob turner' and how can you go wrong with Noel and David as "advisors and influences?

The overall groove on this reminded me of early Trisha Yearwood. Regardless of who it might be similar to, it stands great on its own. The lyric is thought-provoking and oh-so-true.

Great song, production and delivery. Totally loved my listen. Hats off to all concerned.

Alan


Thanks -- those are some very kind remarks! You've been cranking out one cool song after another. Takes me (Bud) a LONG time to squeeze one outa the song tube smile

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#435743 - 10/28/17 08:45 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice, Bud and Kenny,

All the accolades that have coming your way are thoroughly deserved. This is outstanding. Every component sits so very comfortably with its audio colleagues that anyone who wasn't wise to the song's creation would immediately think "professional studio".

Janice's vocals are performed and processed perfectly for the genre; Kenny's guitar work is inspired from top to bottom; and Bud's arranging, mixing and polishing sparkle with expertise!

I really loved the journey you all took me on!

All the best,
Noel

P.S. My contribution amounted to nothing more than a speck of sand in a desert. All the kudos belongs to Janice, Bud and Kenny!
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#435791 - 10/29/17 11:47 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: RichMac]
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Originally Posted By: RichMac
Hi Janice Bud and Kenny.
Most enjoyable with great clarity and definition.
Fantastic counterpoint chorus. Cheers.


Thanks! Glad you like the counterpoint. Janice dreamed that up while she was singing the lead track.

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#436022 - 10/31/17 07:36 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Deryk - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: BlueAttitude
Nice one guys!

I listened to the audio yesterday, watched the video this morning.

First of all, a great write! One of your best I think, Bud. And I did hear a bit of a John Mellencamp vibe happening, especially at the beginning.

Janice is great as usual, such great tone! And phrasing too, not the first time I've mentioned that!

Harmonies with Kenny work well, and some nice tasteful guitar work happening also.

I always enjoy hearing collaborations, well done!



We all appreciate that. Glad you heard some Mellencamp in there as we used several of his songs as references when mixing and mastering. Thanks for listening and commenting!

J&B

Originally Posted By: Deryk - PG Music
What a tune! What a fantastic collaboration - I wouldn't flinch hearing this on the radio among the modern country tunes on the billboards. It's fantastically written, and the production on here is near flawless. Not to mention, the arrangement of all the instruments here gives it a lot of character.

Great work here, and thanks so much for sharing smile


That's very kind of you Deryk and it is appreciated!

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#436100 - 10/31/17 06:22 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Janice Bud & Kenny

Impressive! Has it all - excellent lyrics, strong melody, Janice, and some tasty harmonies and guitar lines.
Deserves all the previous accolades and is another wonderful addition to your superb collection of songs.

Peter

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#436112 - 10/31/17 09:34 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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I really like this. A well thought out lyric. As Johnny Cash might say. We've all worn that cleanest dirty shirt. Wonderful job on everything. vocally, instrumentally and great mix.

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#436250 - 11/01/17 07:27 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Fantastic!! A lot of forum A-team members doing some great work! This is my favorite lyric from J and B. Everything in this song works so well for me. Cool video too! A home run!!! (since it's world series game 7 night). Take care. Greg

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#436331 - 11/02/17 02:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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I'll can write only this night.
Another great song for us. A little different from your latest song but equally special.

Great vocal as usual but here particularly.

Sergio
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#436510 - 11/04/17 04:11 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Young
Great collaboration! Love the harmonies. Great job on the guitar, Kenny!

Love this.

Steve


Thanks Steve! Glad you liked Kenny’s work. He did a fine job.

J&B

Originally Posted By: RnAM
Thorough and straight basic rock arrangement. Drums work very well.
Kenny's "screaming" guitars are a very nice addition.
Bud, you did a terrific job with the layering of the vocals, especially on the bridge.

Rob


Thanks Rob. That’s great to hear you mention the vocal layering. You are a master at that.

J&B

Originally Posted By: rayc
Class act all the way.


Thanks Ray!

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#436518 - 11/04/17 05:44 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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Hi there J&B.

I've been missing from the forum over the summer - several weeks in France without internet, plus busy looking after grandchildren during the school vacation - so this is the first thing I've reviewed in a while.

Well, you've got all the big names involved in this one, so I was expecting something good and I certainly wasn't disappointed. Right from the start the groove was there loud and strong in a clear and powerful mix.
Janice, well what can I say that you haven't heard so many times from me before. Fabulous.
Great guitar from Kenny and excellent BVs throughout.

All this, plus a super story-line lyric. Everything works SO well you must all be so proud of this one.

Cheers, ROG.

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#436590 - 11/04/17 03:01 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Rob4580]
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Originally Posted By: Rob4580
Love the way you guys tell a story.
Catchy upbeat tune- got my attention.
Nice work as well Kenny.
Rob


Thanks Rob! You write fine stories so that makes your comment even more appreciated.

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#436869 - 11/06/17 06:49 PM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: animarorecords]
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Originally Posted By: animarorecords
Hello, Janice, Bud and Kenny

Great Collaboration!
The chords of intro.and Kenny's guitar are really nice.
As Ember said, the guitar "dances with the fiddle" on this one.
Janice's vocals properly reach us quiet desperation.
And really nice mixing.
Once Neutron is used, I also cannot stop using it because of its surprising effect.
Enjoyed my listen a lot.

Best regards.

Shigeki Adachi


Thank you for listening and taking the time to write such a thoughtful review. We much appreciate it!

J&B
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#436927 - 11/07/17 07:41 AM [User Showcase] Re: Quiet Desperation (with Kenny aka 44kfl) [Re: Janice & Bud]
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hi guys almost missed this awesome job on this peace great production as always thanks for sharing perfect colab eric

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