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Yes it is. So is having Christmas trees and decorations up in stores two weeks before Halloween!


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I love the holiday season and welcome the decorations as early as anyone wants to display them! Longer for me to enjoy them!! And I also love leaving them up well into January!!

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As an entertainer I:

1) Never play Christmas songs until after Thanksgiving

2) Never play religious Christmas songs but stick to the secular ones.

I find that by breaking these general guidelines I would make more enemies in the audience than friends.

As far as I'm concerned, they are just songs, if I like the music, I like them if not, I don't and so many fall in between the two extremes.

Every year we do a number or Holiday Parties, and we are thankful that we get the gigs and try our best to make the audience have the best experience we are capable of providing them.

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The most offensive song, musically speaking, is Sir Paul’s holiday offering of years gone by. Nothing makes me hit the power off button faster. Nothing. And I love the Beatles

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IMHO, Christmas music destroys brain cells no matter what time of the year it is played.

I can tolerate it for a short period of time immediately preceding the holiday and with a sharp cutoff immediately after.


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I don't listen to Christmas music by choice, but I love it.

Why?

Christmas party gigs!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!

OK, I know that makes me part of the commercialization of Christmas, but I love to gig, and if it means "Jingle Bell Rock" and the others, that's fine with me.

St Patrick's Day means we break out those songs for a week. Last year we did 5 St.Pat Parties - we give the retirement homes a price break if they have it not on the day.

Valentine's day is more interesing, because there are a zillion love songs to choose from.

The think I didn't like was playing on Cruise Ships in December because some people come out for a special Christmas, and others come out to avoid Christmas, so it's hard to satisfy both opposite polarities.

One year we had Hanukkah falling a couple of days before Christmas. A Jewish family came and set up the tables with candles and religious items. They asked us if we knew any Hanukkah music, and we said "Sorry we don't" but we told them that we wouldn't play any Christmas Music that night and everybody was happy with that.

And IMHO it's a lot better to play Christmas music than to be subjected to it on the radio. But I don't listen to much radio anymore. It's not that I'm opposed to it, it's just that for decade after decade of listening to the same songs there is nothing new to tickle my ears.

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I absolutely HATE Christmas music. Though to be honest, I hate Christmas itself.

But again, I don't work. I don't want to work. I refuse to ever work again. Money means nothing to me. I won't sell out and play music I hate for any amount of money.

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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
I don't listen to Christmas music by choice, but I love it.

Why?

Christmas party gigs!$!$!$!$!$!$!$!

OK, I know that makes me part of the commercialization of Christmas, but I love to gig, and if it means "Jingle Bell Rock" and the others, that's fine with me.

St Patrick's Day means we break out those songs for a week. Last year we did 5 St.Pat Parties - we give the retirement homes a price break if they have it not on the day.

Valentine's day is more interesing, because there are a zillion love songs to choose from.

The think I didn't like was playing on Cruise Ships in December because some people come out for a special Christmas, and others come out to avoid Christmas, so it's hard to satisfy both opposite polarities.

One year we had Hanukkah falling a couple of days before Christmas. A Jewish family came and set up the tables with candles and religious items. They asked us if we knew any Hanukkah music, and we said "Sorry we don't" but we told them that we wouldn't play any Christmas Music that night and everybody was happy with that.

And IMHO it's a lot better to play Christmas music than to be subjected to it on the radio. But I don't listen to much radio anymore. It's not that I'm opposed to it, it's just that for decade after decade of listening to the same songs there is nothing new to tickle my ears.

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I hear you Notes, been there - done that - laughed all the way to the bank!


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Nobody like this, get in the mood,

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Actually there are a couple of Christmas songs that I really enjoy playing and/or singing. Well constructed songs with interesting chord changes that are satisfying to improvise a solo to or twist a melody, and others are just plain fun to get the crowd aroused and cheerful.

I have a lot of fun on my gigs. Leilani and I are at a party, we are in control of the party, and we are the life of the party. People dance, they applaud every 4 or 5 minutes, they sometimes applaud after a solo, they tell us how much they love us, and at the end of the gig they thank us for giving them a nice evening (or afternoon).

What's not to like about that?

I remember my first paying gig. I was in junior high school at the time. Me and my buddies had a little rock band. We were terrible, but everybody was way back then.

The school hired us for a sock-hop in the gym, which doubled as an auditorium. So there I was, up on stage with my best friends, playing the tunes of the day that we worked so hard on, having a lot of fun, and that cute girl who never even acknowledged my existence in English class was looking up 'making eyes' at me. And at the end of the night, they paid me money!!!!!!!!! I've paid for experiences that weren't that much fun.

Every girl I ever met was introduced to me through my saxophone, including the best one yet, Leilani who is now my band-mate and best friend (and lover) and I still have as much fun playing music on stage with her in front of an appreciative audience.

And the gigs paid off the mortgage, kept food on the table, provided yearly vacations, and continues to do so. What's not to love about that?

Christmas songs, Irish St.Pat songs, rock songs, blues songs, jazz songs, country songs, reggae songs, salsa songs, or whatever, they all have the same 12 notes, if played for the right crowd at the right time get energy, smiles and applause from the audience, and at the end of the gig money.

Perhaps I'm too weird not to get burned out, but the thrill is NOT gone, I'm having a great time, and life is good.

We have a gig tonight with a request of "No Christmas Songs" but we don't do that until after Thanksgiving, so we won't do them until after our Thanksgiving gig, unless the contractor asks us to, and then we'd be delighted to do so.

I know a lot of musicians have an aversion to playing certain songs, Christmas Songs, Brown Eyed Girl, Mustang Sally, and the list goes on and on. But I know playing music is not a lecture, it's a dialog to the audience, the tried-and-true songs are like foreplay in lovemaking. A teaser for better thrills to come. And once the song starts, I admit, they are simply a lot of fun to play, no matter how many times I've played them.

Of course there are those that have a very different attitude, and that's right for them, but having fun doing what I'm doing is also right for me. I'm having a great life.

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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton

I know a lot of musicians have an aversion to playing certain songs, Christmas Songs, Brown Eyed Girl, Mustang Sally, and the list goes on and on. But I know playing music is not a lecture, it's a dialog to the audience, the tried-and-true songs are like foreplay in lovemaking. A teaser for better thrills to come. And once the song starts, I admit, they are simply a lot of fun to play, no matter how many times I've played them.


Indeed, some musicians play their entire musical lives and never really learn that simple truth.

We used to gripe about having to play certain songs in various bands but we knew that we were there to play the songs the audience wanted to hear. And yes, sometimes several times a night. Swinging comes to mind as well as Wipeout, JB Goode, and a few others through the years. They were very popular songs when they were on the radio and people love them. Fact is, when we started one of those songs, the dance floor would pack instantly with people having the time of their lives. That's what gigging is all about. And with the dancers having a blast, it was hard not to have fun with the song too up on stage. It's one of those things where energy seems to be created from out of nowhere. Ahhhh, the good old days playing the songs that everybody loved to hate.

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This article is all too relatable to me, having worked in retail as a teenager during the Christmas time. I've met two types of people in this world: the people who either enjoy or are indifferent to Christmas music - and then the people who hate it with a deep fiery passion, and seemingly get infuriated by Frosty The Snowman. Personally, seasonal music doesn't really bug me too much.

I have a young Godson who is at the perfect age where the Christmas spirit is alive and well in him. While I'm never going to be playing Jingle Bells when I'm at home enjoying tunes by my lonesome, I do appreciate how happy and positive these songs are. Even though it's sort of a hallmark holiday these days more than anything else - seeing how much joy young kids like my Godson get out of these old Christmas tunes makes it more bearable for me.

Obviously, Rudolf the Red-nose Reindeer isn't the pinnacle of songwriting - but, it isn't supposed to be and I feel it has it's place smile

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Johnny Marks probably made enough money for a villa in the south of France with the royalties from the dozen or so Christmas songs that he wrote. They are mostly for children, A-A-B-A type songs that are filled with rather pedestrian chord changes (which are musically better than a lot of the one or two chord popular songs), and are usually crowd pleasers. Playing them for a month each year is a privilege.

Interestingly, the two all time most famous Christmas songs were written by Jewish people, "White Christmas" and "The Christmas Song" (Chestnuts roasting...). To me this demonstrates that although there are a few different religious holidays happening at the end of the year, Christmas itself has become both religious to those who feel that way, and secular for the majority of the others.

We tend to play only secular Christmas songs to celebrate inclusiveness and avoid exclusiveness. And a week from today, we'll start including them in our gigs unless we feel they are inappropriate for the particular gig.

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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
Interestingly, the two all time most famous Christmas songs were written by Jewish people, "White Christmas" and "The Christmas Song" (Chestnuts roasting...).


What??? Irving Berlin was Jewish??? LOL!!

Lots of people thought Mel Torme was Hispanic, but he was the son of a Russian Jewish immigrant, named Torma, but pronounced tore-may.

More useless trivia that I know for some reason.

I responded mainly because of the song itself, because MANY years ago at a Christmas party, also after MANY beers, I picked up the acoustic and did a silly parody of it, opening with "Roast nuts chesting on an open fire... Jack Frost nosing at your nips..." And I won't go further because the forum auto censor would make most of it be ******* anyway. That is probably the only Christmas song I ever really liked because the message is heartfelt, the music is beautifully written (as well as complex), and it really paints a picture well of a family Christmas.


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The traditional songs tend to turn me off.

However, I did find a few country artist songs that I really enjoyed hearing and playing.

Alabama's Christmas In Dixie

and Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton's The Greatest Gift of All

we played both of these songs in the last house band I was in.


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What??? Irving Berlin was Jewish??? LOL!!<...>


Well, his born name waa Israel Beilin and he was one of eight children of Moses (1848–1901) and Lena Lipkin Beilin (1850–1922). His father, a cantor in a synagogue, uprooted the family to America, as did many other Jewish families in the late 19th century. In 1893 they settled in New York City. Upon their arrival at Ellis Island, the name "Beilin" was changed to "Baline".

Sounds Jewish to me.

My trumpet playing Jewish brother-in-law makes a lot of money in the Christmas season and is understandably proud of the fact that people of his heritage wrote the two most famous Christmas songs. BTW, he is an excellent trumpet player, married to a Catholic, plays services for both religions, has a regular jazz gig, and taught music in schools for years.

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Well, his born name waa Israel Beilin


I was pretty sure at "Irving".....


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