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#437031 - 11/07/17 10:46 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS
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In our previous lesson, we looked at the foundation of chords. In this lesson, we will move a step further, treating the Diminished Chords

Diminished Triad Piano Chord
Chord Type:​ Diminished triad
Formula:​ 1+♭3+♭5

Do you see a pattern here? Most chords will use some version of the 1, 3, and 5th tones (later, we’ll add in the 7th tone, which is HUGE in music). Diminished chords take the sad and serious sound of
minor chords even further by flatting yet another tone (the 5th). This gives you a scary­sounding chord, but is used in tons of situations.

Notes in C:​ C + Eb + Gb ................... http://musicalcrib.com/piano-chords2-diminished-and-augmented-chords/

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#437043 - 11/08/17 01:52 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Daniel,

You must spend a bit time putting all your thoughts together. You've offered some good insights so far. I enjoy reading your articles.

All the best,
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#437081 - 11/08/17 06:45 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Ironically, I've been practicing and messing around with diminished and augmented scales and arpeggios this week. I particularly like the scales. Great fun going up and down the guitar neck. I love the fact that diminished chords repeat every 4 frets. I'm not sure what the pattern is for augmented chords. Actually, come to think of it, I don't use augmented chords.... yet.
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#437093 - 11/08/17 07:31 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: lambada]
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One of the ways I use augmented chords is to add one after a V7th chord. For example if the chord progression is G7-C I will go G7-Gaug7-C. To add a little more color I frequently use G7-Gaug9-C.

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#438423 - 11/16/17 07:08 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Thanks Mario. I'll give them a try.
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#438442 - 11/17/17 04:21 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Neil,

Because every note in the 4-note diminished seventh chord is a minor 3rd interval, this means that there are, in reality, only three diminished seventh chords. Each note in the chord has exactly the same notes for its dim7 chord.

For example:
  • Cdim7 = C Eb Gb A
  • Ebdim7 = Eb Gb A C
  • Gbdim7 = Gb A C Eb
  • Adim7 = A C Eb Gb


Augmented chords are very similar. Each note in the three note chord is separated by a major third. This is one fret greater than the minor third interval. Again, each note in the chord has the same notes for its augmented. This leads to the fact that there are, in reality, only 4 augmented chords.

For example:
  • Caug = C E G#
  • Eaug = E G# C
  • G#aug = G# C E

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#438449 - 11/17/17 04:59 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Neil,

With progressions for augmented, there are number of possibilities. As Mario's suggestions indicate, one safe and (usually) sure way to resolve a chord of dissonance (such as a 7th, 9th, 11th, aug, etc.) is to go to a chord based on the note a perfect fifth lower.

For example: Gaug (also known as G+) can comfortably resolve to a C chord (C is a perfect 5th lower than G). Likewise a Caug can resolve to an F chord, etc.

The progression C-Caug-F is one of my favourites. Using the more general Roman numerals this is I-Iaug-IV. To hear it's effect, have a listen to Judy Garland on Youtube (below) singing Rodger's and Hammerstein's "You'll Never Walk Alone".

The progression occurs at around 1:17 - 1:25 and again at 3:10 - 3:18 on the words "(I)Walk on, (I+)walk on, (IV)with hope in your heart".



Just in case you're interested!
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#438450 - 11/17/17 05:13 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: Noel96]
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Another usually safe chord progression is from the tonic to augmented to a sixth like in the Dave Clark Five's because.


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#438462 - 11/17/17 06:14 AM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: musicalcrib]
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Thanks for that progression, Mario. I'd forgotten about it. A samba version of "Brazil" that I used to play a long time ago had that. It was great!

It's a long time ago now, but the rhythmic figure sounded like the horns backing (in the first few bars of the verse 1) in the below Ray Conniff Singers version.



Great song! Sure gets the toes tapping and the lips smiling smile
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#438522 - 11/17/17 12:36 PM [Woodshedding - Learning to Play!] Re: PIANO CHORDS(2) AUGMENTED AND DIMINISHED CHORDS [Re: Noel96]
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Thanx Noel, I had forgotten about that great tune!
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