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#443227 - 12/07/17 04:50 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I have used PT on (8 thru 10) and off with the subscription garbage, and still have a ton of stuff in my iLok account. The reasons I don't like PT...

1. Unstable. On a machine that ANY other DAW runs fine PT freezes, hickup, and crashes. More than Sonar & Reaper for sure.

2. Too many clicks to do simple things, like creating a track....it is like an interrogation and slow compared to every other DAW I have used.

3. Locked to an iLok, the BIGGEST reason I despise PT. Pace systems us a virus that you pay for IMHO.....

I own Sonar Producer (but still use Reaper & Mixbus more), and I am sure it will run solid for years, mainly because my OS NEVER gets updated since my studio system NEVER goes online.

This is bad news for sure, I know a few folks who have had a fit, and then just settled down, cleaned their systems, grabbed all the updates, and got back to work.....
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#443286 - 12/07/17 08:22 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jcspro40]
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Originally Posted By: jcspro40
I have used PT on (8 thru 10) and off with the subscription garbage.....


Sorry to hear you've had so many issues with it. I've been lucky and as long as I keep my iLok and Pro Tools software with the latest version updates, I've been good. My machine stays online unless I'm recording/mixing.
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#443383 - 12/07/17 12:30 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I know a lot of folks that have zero problems, even checking emails while rendering a mix etc, but not me! LOL!
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#444137 - 12/10/17 10:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: rockstar_not]
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Originally Posted By: rockstar_not
Still confusing to people that can’t use a DAW without a fake mixing board on screen.


Not really, I own the newest Traction Waveform (because of a great deal on it!), so it has nothing to do with old & mixing boards....that is just what I have used my entire pro life..... grin

You can also hit the Traction Site and grab the Full Version 5 for free, a great way to try out the look and feel. cool


Edited by jcspro40 (12/10/17 10:48 PM)
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#444257 - 12/11/17 09:39 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jcspro40]
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Just FYI update Tracktion is now actually giving away version 6 of Tracktion!
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#444355 - 12/11/17 02:28 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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If anyone was interested in using Home Studio but Cakewalk closed before you purchased the software, there is a legal alternative method to obtain Home Studio, Rapture Session and about 5 GB of loops. +++ THIS +++ link to the Cakewalk forum provides the details.
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#444538 - 12/12/17 06:46 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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yep Jim I got that about three weeks ago through computer music, really impressed with Home studio.

Not 100% sure if offer is still live though with all that is going on with Cakewalk.

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#444685 - 12/12/17 01:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: musiclover]
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I have been using Sonar for years. I still have Platinum and many add ons that I will use as long as I can. As far as Gibson owning Cakewalk I found almost as soon as they took over good stuff coming from Cakewalk all but disappeared so I won't miss that.

In the past few weeks I have played around in BIAB a lot more than in the past even though I have been using it for several years. I found a number of the synths and things work nicely in BIAB. I can use TH2, Dimension Pro, Adictive Keys and Drums and in truth that is most of what I used anyhow. I would and do generate the rough in BAIB and mix and apply the synths in Sonar.

Since buying the UltraPak in 2016 I tend to use RealTracks and hardly use Sonar for anything other than the mix and setting the final levels. I find the concrete limiter helps keep things at a more constant level. I merge all tracks into a wav and put that onto a laptop for my backing. I have a template set up in Sonar so a lot is already laid out.

On stage I simply plug into a Roland Tri Capture, use TH2 all preset play the Wav using MediaPlayer and everything is set. All I need to do is flip though the songs.

I don't know ill miss Sonar when it dies as I have other ways to do stuff.

Well that's my two bobs worth

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#444711 - 12/12/17 04:28 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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PG has Peak Limit that does the same thing, just slide it into the last effects slot. Also, have you worked with Real Band? It's not as elegant as some big name DAW's but it covers all the essentials, uses all your VST's plus it opens Biab files and has a completely different way of generating the RT's. I won't go into RB here, just check out the RB forum if you haven't already.

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#444713 - 12/12/17 04:38 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: musiclover]
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Originally Posted By: musiclover
yep Jim I got that about three weeks ago through computer music, really impressed with Home studio.

Not 100% sure if offer is still live though with all that is going on with Cakewalk.

Musiclover


Doesn't hurt for someone to +++ click on the link +++ Even if the downloadable content is no longer available Computer Music is a nice magazine. Having said that, I found out about this just a few days ago and was able to download the content.
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#444723 - 12/12/17 05:31 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I checked most recent link (above) and ended up at the site below.
I'm guessing Jim Fogle sees something different than my experience.
I'm pretty sure I was redirected more than once. Just FYI
Not anything against Jim, just guessing his cookies or something gave him a different option than I got.



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#444728 - 12/12/17 05:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: rharv]
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I think you are suppose to actually subscribe to the mag (or site?) to get the deal but Jim should know

But I'm not going to go through the registration process just to find out

Larry
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#444732 - 12/12/17 05:57 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Larry Kehl]
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Yeah, I didn't want to scare anyone, but the link didn't behave as expected here .. hoping he may have a different link (?)
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#444749 - 12/12/17 07:27 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: rharv]
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Hi Bob, I have only recently started to play around with RealBand, it's ok but I tend to export each track as a wav then import each track into Sonar that I have pretty much setup for the output I want with minimal work in Sonar. I guess as time goes by I'll do less in Sonar and eventually it might fade away.

The real expense was with the plugins and the ones I used most pretty much work in BIAB/RealBand.

Tony
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#444942 - 12/13/17 04:10 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Yep, you can get a whole lot done in RB, once you get the hang of it.

Any new DAW has this issue; developing your workflow and learning the shortcuts.
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#444954 - 12/13/17 04:49 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: rharv]
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Originally Posted By: rharv
Yep, you can get a whole lot done in RB, once you get the hang of it.


You can get a whole lot done in anything once you get the hang of it.


Edited by eddie1261 (12/14/17 04:44 PM)
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#445163 - 12/14/17 04:12 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Exactly

Every new DAW has the same issue; you have to learn it.
It took me a while to learn ProTools, and Reaper, and .. just like it took a while for Realband.

/heh, maybe I'm just a slow learner
//happily, I'm still learning

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#445173 - 12/14/17 04:50 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: rharv]
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Originally Posted By: rharv
Exactly

Every new DAW has the same issue; you have to learn it.
It took me a while to learn ProTools, and Reaper, and .. just like it took a while for Realband.


I have Pro Tools, Reaper, Samplitude and Sonar. And I mainly use Real Band. The caveat there is that IF I was a real studio, I would be using Pro Tools so bands coming to spend their money to record in my studio could bring me tracks they made at home without a lot of fancy importing. I only know 30-40 people here but most of who I know work in music as a hobby or a second income job, but none are really recording engineers as their main job. I have seen "industry standard" tossed in here a few times and I restate my doubts that any studio anywhere uses Real Band as their primary DAW.

I am a classic dabbler. Create stuff, get the mix close, and save it for a rainy year..... so it doesn't matter to me what I use. I bought Pro Tools mainly because I wanted to see it hands on, and I really do like it. Some of the logic is quite simple despite what many think.
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#445196 - 12/14/17 08:41 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
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Hi,

The real difference I found with Sonar is there are a number of books out to show the ins and outs of Sonar and the various plugins. They showed not only the use but also explained the reasoning behind the methods. For example, the question arose in this forum regarding sfz files. The book on plugins had several chapters on how to create the files and what they are used for. Same for channel mixing and the uses of busses etc. How to get the best out of the tools.

It is books like this I find missing with BIAB/RealBand albeit BIAB is more self intuitive.

Tony
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PG Music News
Tutorials - How to Install Band-in-a-Box® for Mac

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Windows users: click here | Mac users: click here

RealTracks Patch Update for Windows Users

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest RealTracks update patch (519) here.

This patch includes some RealTracks audio updates we have made since the release of Band-in-a-Box 2018. 2018 users should be sure to download the latest Band-in-a-Box 2018 update patch (519), as that patch includes the bulk of the fixes for RealTracks released with 2018. This is a larger download than typical because it updates the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks audio files. There is more information and Audiophile patches available here.

Summary of RealTracks Audio updates:
Improved: There were small issues with the tuning of several Bass styles. This has been fixed for both the original mix and the direct input mix. This affects the following RealTracks:
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow16thsByron Ev16 060
- Bass, Acoustic, AmericanaSlow128Byron Sw 040
- Bass, Acoustic, RockabillySwingByron Sw 190
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Improved: Audio glitches have been removed from the ends of phrases in the Vocal Oohs and Aahs RealTracks.

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows Patch Update Available!

Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows users can download the latest (free) update patch (519) here.

Summary of changes:
Added: Additional dialog available for detailed information in the StyleMaker (fields for memo, examples, and other parameters). These are set in the StyleMaker (more dialog, a button called "Style Memos etc").
Added: Help Video button Added to the Audio Harmony dialog.
Improved: ABC opening improvements with some accidentals, and leadin bars that occur in middle of song.
Improved: Audio harmonies now used Improved algorithms, and can be easily set using N voices above, M voices below (and have additional functions like duplicate melody, and dup. melody octave below).
Improved: Lyrics will be now read from .mid files that used to be karaoke files (.kar) and got renamed somewhere along the line.
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Improved: The Audio Harmony Dialog has been rearranged to be more intuitive when using Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
Fixed: Audio harmonies might be missing some notes.
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Fixed: Band-in-a-Box might crash on bootup with error "Read Beyond end of file".
Fixed: Band-in-a-Box should show message if the latest VJT application is not installed when the user tries to render videos.
Fixed: File > Open Special > Open Audio was importing audio instead of opening it in a new song.
Fixed: In the Bar Settings window, "Chordsheet and Notation - Start a New Line" should say "Notation - Start a New Line".
Fixed: It was not possible to record audio using WAS audio drivers if "Output always on" was disabled.
Fixed: Misc. RealTracks updates.
Fixed: Quicklist drums picker sometimes showing too many drums in the list.
Fixed: Redundant flash messages were showing.
Fixed: Removing a custom drums from a track would still display Drums as the name of the loop in the track.
Fixed: Rendering audio while there is a region of bars highlighted in the chord sheet might cause a crash.
Fixed: Saving a MIDI file would fail unless saving as type 1.
Fixed: Some 12-key RealTracks were incorrectly set to allow transposition.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog needed some hints.
Fixed: The Audio Harmony dialog was missing the new Band-in-a-Box Intelligent Mode.
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Tutorials - How to Install Your Band-in-a-Box® for Mac Hard Drive

When you have your Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac UltraPAK shipped to you on a portable hard drive, there are a few different options for installation. We go over these 3 options with our latest video series:

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Option 2: Install Band-in-a-Box® on your computer hard drive, but leave the RealTracks & RealDrums on the USB hard drive: click here to view.

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Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

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