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#441690 - 11/30/17 07:43 AM [Beginners Forum] Endings with sustain
Slick Salmon Offline
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BIAB has a very nice RealTracks feature that allows the final chord of a song to resonate with some sustain (decay) rather than just abruptly stopping. From the Song Setting menu you select "Use 4-Bar Ending for RealTracks".

This feature is great if you allow BIAB to generate a 2-bar ending, but it's grayed out if you don't. So, the end of the tune is a bit like hitting a brick wall. It just stops dead. Having BIAB generate an 2-bar ending would be fine if the ending allowed a chord change within those two bars, but it doesn't.

Is there a way around this?



Edited by Slick Salmon (11/30/17 08:38 AM)

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#441704 - 11/30/17 08:57 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Endings with sustain [Re: Slick Salmon]
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I don't know how to change the chord within the built-in function of 2 or 4-bar endings. The 4-bar ending, by the way, is a 2-bar ending that is allowed to resonate an additional two bars.

But I don't use these. I put a hold on the final chord (add three periods after the chord name). Make sure the song (or Tag) doesn't end right after; give it several bars to fade out, and then a few more. Then put another chord well beyond the end of the fade, and use a single period (this causes it to silence all instruments). Just use a different chord - anything - other than the chord being held.
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#441836 - 12/01/17 05:07 AM [Beginners Forum] Re: Endings with sustain [Re: Slick Salmon]
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when I write, I use BB for the composition of the song. if the factory endings don't give me what I want I simply add a bunch of measures to the song and make my own ending. For a hold and fade to black ending.... type the final chord followed by 3 dots. leave about 4 measures after it for the fade to complete.

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Normally, however, in the real world, you're not going to let the final chord sustain for 4 measures. So in my DAW, I use a volume envelope or envelopes (as needed) to shorten the fade to a more reasonable length.... normally about 4 beats and gone.
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#442432 - 12/03/17 05:44 PM [Beginners Forum] Re: Endings with sustain [Re: Slick Salmon]
Slick Salmon Offline
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Good suggestions. Thanks! If I use three dots on the last chord and then leave two bars empty after that, I can fade the volume in the second bar and get pretty close to what I want. But, life would be a lot easier if BIAB allowed chord changes in their 2-bar endings. Those decay nicely.



Edited by Slick Salmon (12/03/17 06:09 PM)

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