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Cakewalk had (has?) been doing that (putting crapola everywhere and redundantly making folders all over BOOT drive) since Sonar version (5 or 6?, I forget it was right at Win Vista) - that was when CW and I started drifting apart
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Thanks Larry. I was at my house all day and haven't installed anything yet, just did the downloads. I appreciate the detailed explanations I'm sure when I actually install this stuff it will become clear.
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I'll have to double check, Larry, but it seems that when I look at the Independence Pro folder it read (in Windows) 69 point something GB, so pretty close to 70 GB.
Also, if you want to install on a second machine, just copy the downloaded Independence content over to the other machine, then run the installer and select the 3rd option (which is the content is already on your hard drive).
Also, it looks like you can only authorize Spectralayers on one machine.
I'm also having problems getting SoundForge Pro to run on my Windows 7 machine, but I suspect it's getting confused initializing the sound cards, so I'll do some more troubleshooting (removing the FastTrack Pro and letting it find the built-in sound, then adding FastTrack Pro back in after configuring for the internal card).
Otherwise, everything does seem to work, but I need to learn it. And I need to see if I can specify multiple VST folders, or if I have to move everything to my standard location. I'll report back on that.
One thing I did do was move all the downloaded EXE's to my second machine and installed using them (rather than starting with the program downloader) and everything installed just fine, so I didn't have to wait for that 30GB to download again.
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John
I've installed, run, and registered all three programs (SAM, SF, and, Spectra) on BOTH Win 10 and Win 7 no issues. And like I said elsewhere, I already know where I dorked up - so moving the large sample folder around is easy
BUT can you PLEASE tell me how many ytif's is it MORE than 76? and how many more
and can you report The TOTAL size your Ind. Pro sample folder (since I doubt you installed to C)
but it WOULD have been this folder for a default install
"C:\Program Files (x86)\MAGIX\Independence Pro\"
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Homer says "DOH!" (look at the RIGHT "number" and not be LAZY like me and look at ONLY the FIRST number)
Computer reports 64.8 GB but that is really 64.8*(1024)**3 bytes OR 69,578,470,195.+ a hair BYTES
and I have "Size 64.8GB (69,608,811,640)"
and "Size on disk 64.8 GB (69,616,664,576 bytes)"
SO I suspect you have 76 ytif's no more no less (all the other files are noise)
NEVER MIND!
Larry
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I'm pretty sure it was 76 files, but I will check tonight after work.
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Larry, everybody I know (who also happens to be 60 to 70 years old) all say the older I get, the busier I get. No rest for the wicked and all that rot.
I haven't figured out yet if that's because we're really that busy or we've just lost the ability to multitask...all I know is I continually feel like the proverbial one-armed paperhanger and it's sooo easy to miss highly technical details like we're talking about now. Gotta slow down a bit and pay attention...but, but I'm running out for a doctors appointment, gotta return my daughters call, gotta prepare for the Christmas party, gotta leak in the right front tire, gottadothis, gottadothat...
And of course the most important thing: Gotta have some fun on this forum with our new toys. Yay!
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Did you have fun waiting for Independence Pro download? LOL
FWIW: it seems you can interrupt and it will pick back up - however, I DID NOT test this, but a newbie (like us) on the MAGIX forum reported that he had to stop it and later he picked it backup where he was so.... - buyer beware I guess
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I did test starting and stopping the download (not by choice - I came in to check on the status and it reported failure - so you just click on "keep what you've got" and start the utility again), and it worked. With my internet, it took a good couple of days to download everything. I then just copied those files over to my other machine and selected the "I have the files" option there. That took just a couple of minutes.
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Larry -
A couple of things. The Independence Library does report 64.8GB, but as you said, that's 69 billion bytes, so I suspect that's where the 70GB came from. Also, there are only 76 files.
One nugget I found was when you download all the links you were provided, even though the Samplitude installer also installs SoundForge, if you launch the separate Soundforge installer, it will also get you a copy of Magix Music Maker (a low end DAW) as a little bonus. You might have missed it if you just did the Samplitude install and thought you didn't need to launch Soundforge because it was already installed.
Also, I did get Soundforge to run properly by setting it to run in Windows XP SP3 compatibility mode.
Getting close to having it as I want it and then can start working with it.
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Good to know about the separate Soundforge install (I already had a copy of that program a few years ago - I FORGET how or why so no need to re-get it)
As to the installers, there about 1GB of installers downloaded from the email links after they are run (and you already found those). I KEPT those (backed up) so I never have to re-download those, as well as the ~70 GB (yes 70 - LOL) of the ind. pro \images and \layers content folders, - that 70 GB is the PITA
I'm wonder why you have to run Sonundforge in XP mode? I'm running in whatever the default was/is (I need to reboot into 7 to see)
I'm bouncing back and forth between FL12, Studio One Pro and now Samplitude plus all the included goodies so am not really focused on details yet in the later
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Actually, when you download the additional content (all the Vita stuff), you end up with about 10GB of download, in addition to the 70GB. All is backed upon on "installation USB drive" (I have all my installation files, nicely categorized, for all my software on an almost full 1.5TB USB drive, backed up to another one, of course, along with a spreadsheet that tracks versions, serial numbers, installation notes, site and forum logins, etc.). It's been a lifesaver the couple of times I've had to do a clean install.
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Yea I meant to type "10" GB not "1" for the installers And I also keep EVERYTHING (triple) redundantly backup (images), or copied, or both - and one full copy of all files and images is maintained by me off-site (out of house) and I do not mean in the idiotic cloud. You HAVE ZERO control over availability, reliability, or accessibility of anything you put on ANY cloud, unless you physically WORK at, and have physical access to, the various cloud server farm locations. I'm a (sort of semi-retired) senior scientific analyst (and you can't spell the last word without the first four letters  !) Larry
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Yep, I got the notice when I launched it yesterday.
I'll be playing seriously with it the next couple of days on a project I'm doing for my parents' 60th Wedding Anniversary.
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Good luck and tell them Congrats!
(My Brother is in Hawaii with wife doing their 50th)
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FYI it's been extended to 26 Dec, I assume there were enough moths to the flame (like me) to make it worth while. I see a new Samplitude X4 coming with a not so inexpensive upgrade price - but that's OK Larry EDIT Link was in first post on this thread but I'll repeat it here http://www.magix.com/index.php?id=24739&...uikyuI1i8dKzA7h
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I have looked and don't see it can you post a link please
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I got this link from a recent email from MAGIX.
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