OK, don't know exactly what is going on but something is wanky since the BIAB 2018 update this morning. From warnings "drivers have been left open", to no sounds, to BIAB Lockups there is something strange going on. At this moment I have a locked screen of BIAB and no sound at all. Will reboot but this looks like it is going to take time. Anyone else?
I agree the Creators upgrade has caused a lot of problems for many people I have had four programs that worked perfectly well before causing problems Solved the issues by installing Creators a second time Evidently there are elements in it for changes later on Brian
BIAB - RealBand - 2022 Windows 10 64 Zoo computer with 7i processor- SSD 1TB -2TB HDD Roland keyboards
I had a problem with the winlive synth driver, but reinstalled it and no problems. I'm on the beta of the latest Windows 10 and have BIAB 18 installed. No problems so far for basic stuff.
Windows 10 Home 20H2 Build 19042.487 BIAB 2021 (Build 818) Intel(R) Core(TM), i3-4160, CPU @3.60 GHz RAM 16 GB, 64 Bit X64-based processor Zoom UAC-2 (USB 3 interface-built in midi) VoiceLive 3 Extreme, Sputnik Valve Condenser Mic
Dan, let’s work on your problems and get more detail.
About the lockups, just checking, are you running BBW.EXE As Administrator?
What exactly do the driver warnings say?
Did you click on the Windows volume control (little speaker icon, lower right) to examine that? Make sure the right sound module is selected and make it the default device. Check that it’s 44.1 and not 48K. Windows updates keep flipping that.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
First let me tell you this is a rock solid system. Yes, I have lots of drivers and lots of music apps - but this machine and I manage them well. I know I will fix this, but yiepps, sometimes I wonder why I spend so much time futzin with these darn computers.
Dan, let’s work on your problems and get more detail.
About the lockups, just checking, are you running BBW.EXE As Administrator?
What exactly do the driver warnings say?
Did you click on the Windows volume control (little speaker icon, lower right) to examine that? Make sure the right sound module is selected and make it the default device. Check that it’s 44.1 and not 48K. Windows updates keep flipping that.
Yes as administrator See Picture I am seeing issues with the rate. My MOTU is not reacting to BIAB and autosetting the rate as it did in the past. I am looking into this. Yes, Windows updates are horrible. In fact I turn them off on this machine. But did update in the past week with that huge Creator updates.
Good detail. Yes, we all spend too much time on this nonsense.
I do have a memory of that error about another device open, but I haven’t seen it in many years. I think it’s in the BIAB FAQ. How about drivers: are you using ASIO or WAS in BIAB? If so, try MME for diagnostic purposes and I’ll bet the error disappears.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
Check that it’s 44.1 and not 48K. Windows updates keep flipping that.
I am back up with sound. A good reboot likey.
Something going on with the rates. The WAS driver will not run. Error message "you audio device is set at 48K and BIAB is 44.1". Now in the past my MOTU Audio Express would always auto sense the app. For BAIB it would switch to 44.1 automatically. It is not doing that now? However, when I go back to MME in BAIB, the MOTU still says 48K (my system default), but it is playing fine. Go figure.
So for now all if fine. I just to focus on the music.
Oh by the way, last week I bought a new Music Machine. I have just plugged it in and booted it and it sits on the desk next to my current machine which is ~10 year old. But that is a whole nother story.
On my Windows 7 build , my default soundcard is my AKAI EIE pro audio interface . Providing it is switched on, otherwise it falls through to my onboard Realtech HD.if I am out and about without the AKAI.
By default my Akai is set to 24 bit 4800 this suits all of my music software.
When I run BIAB the Akai auto changes to 24 / 44100 I am using the dedicated Akai Asio driver all is fine.
But if I try to use the WAS driver in BIAB I get the error message about non matching in and out rates (so it seems that the WAS driver can not switch my Akai to 44 .1) as a result if I look at my Akai interface panel in this state it is indeed still set to 48. All rather academic really as I want to use ASIO anyway and that works fine.
Good observations. I ran into something similar with my Focusrite 18i20 (2) while testing BIAB 2018 with the WAS driver. I need to learn more about Windows Audio Service, but like you, I don't need it as my BIAB performance on MME or ASIO is fine.
BIAB 2024 Win Audiophile. Software: Studio One 6.5 Pro, Swam horns, Acoustica-7, Notion 6; Win 11 Home. Hardware: Intel i9, 32 Gb; Roland Integra-7, Presonus Studio 192, Presonus Faderport 8, Royer 121, Adam Sub8 & Neumann 120 monitors
So I need some education here. I have a few different setups one of which is my surface pro 3 with ableton and BIAB installed on a Samsung external ssd. I have always just used MME or if I am in my shed using my novation keyboard I will use ASIO with a Berigner q802 USB mixer. I have never really used the USB audio connection but decided to try it toay. With the new windows 10 creator update ASIO was really having issues. I used MME with the windows USB codec/(which I did not know even existed) Ableton said my latency was about 63ms but I truly could not hear any at all. buffer was set to approx. 3700, which seemed high. Once I tried to go below that I had issues.
Set BIAB (2017, latest build) to the same and again no latency at all with both programs running. I can usually notice some latency around 30 to 35ms.
So my question is did something change in the way that windows handles audio? I was really surprised that performance was so good.
Set BIAB (2017, latest build) to the same and again no latency at all with both programs running. I can usually notice some latency around 30 to 35ms.
So my question is did something change in the way that windows handles audio? I was really surprised that performance was so good.
From the release notes for 2018: Windows Audio (WASAPI) driver format support. This allows for low latency audio recording/playback without requiring ASIO. Note: this supports 1 stereo input plus 1 stereo output at a time.
For multiple inputs/outputs, you should continue to use either MME or ASIO.
BIAB & RB2024 Win.(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Cakewalk by Bandlab, Izotope Prod.Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, NS40M Monitors, Pioneer Active Monitors, AKG K271 Studio H'phones
Add updated printing options, enhanced tracks settings, smoother use of MGU and SGU (BB files) within PowerTracks, and more with the latest PowerTracks Pro Audio 2024 update!
Download and install this to your RealBand 2024 for updated print options, streamlined loading and saving of .SGU & MGU (BB) files, and to add a number of program adjustments that address user-reported bugs and concerns.
Did you know... not only can you download your Band-in-a-Box® Pro, MegaPAK, or PlusPAK purchase - you can also choose to add a flash drive backup copy with the installation files for only $15? It even comes with a Band-in-a-Box® keychain!
For the larger Band-in-a-Box® packages (UltraPAK, UltraPAK+, Audiophile Edition), the hard drive backup copy is available for only $25. This will include a preinstalled and ready to use program, along with your installation files.
Backup copies are offered during the checkout process on our website.
Already purchased your e-delivery version, and now you wish you had a backup copy? It's not too late! If your purchase was for the current version of Band-in-a-Box®, you can still reach out to our team directly to place your backup copy order!
Note: the Band-in-a-Box® keychain is only included with flash drive backup copies, and cannot be purchased separately.
Handy flash drive tip: Always try plugging in a USB device the wrong way first? If your flash drive (or other USB plug) doesn't have a symbol to indicate which way is up, look for the side with a seam on the metal connector (it only has a line across one side) - that's the side that either faces down or to the left, depending on your port placement.
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows® Today!
Update your Band-in-a-Box® 2024 for Windows for free with build 1111!
With this update, there's more control when saving images from the Print Preview window, we've added defaults to the MultiPicker for sorting and font size, updated printing options, updated RealTracks and other content, and addressed user-reported issues with the StylePicker, MIDI Soloists, key signature changes, and more!
A few excerpts:
"The Tracks view is possibly the single most powerful addition in 2024 and opens up a new way to edit and generate accompaniments. Combined with the new MultiPicker Library Window, it makes BIAB nearly perfect as an 'intelligent' composer/arranger program."
"MIDI SuperTracks partial generation showing six variations – each time the section is generated it can be instantly auditioned, re-generated or backed out to a previous generation – and you can do this with any track type. This is MAJOR! This takes musical experimentation and honing an arrangement to a new level, and faster than ever."
"Band in a Box continues to be an expansive musical tool-set for both novice and experienced musicians to experiment, compose, arrange and mix songs, as well as an extensive educational resource. It is huge, with hundreds of functions, more than any one person is likely to ever use. Yet, so is any DAW that I have used. BIAB can do some things that no DAW does, and this year BIAB has more DAW-like functions than ever."
Convenient Ways to Listen to Band-in-a-Box® Songs Created by Program Users!
The User Showcase Forum is an excellent place to share your Band-in-a-Box® songs and listen to songs other program users are creating!
There are other places you can listen to these songs too! Visit our User Showcase page to sort by genre, artist (forum name), song title, and date - each listing will direct you to the forum post for that song.
If you'd rather listen to these songs in one place, head to our Band-in-a-Box® Radio, where you'll have the option to select the genre playlist for your listening pleasure. This page has SoundCloud built in, so it won't redirect you. We've also added the link to the Artists SoundCloud page here, and a link to their forum post.
We hope you find some inspiration from this amazing collection of User Showcase Songs!
Our User Showcase Forum receives more than 50 posts per day, with people sharing their Band-in-a-Box songs and providing feedback for other songs posted.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you over the phone. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday, and 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST Saturday. We are closed Sunday. You can also send us your questions via email.
One of our representatives will be happy to help you on our Live Chat or by email. Our hours of operation are from
6:00AM to 6:00PM PST (GMT -8) Monday thru Friday; 8:00AM to 4:00PM PST (GMT -8) Saturday; Closed Sunday.