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#442031 - 12/02/17 01:18 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Cannot believe the amount of vst/vsti you get with Mixcraft, not to mention the loops etc.

I bought sonar then a lot of wave plugs and others just to get started .

I bought Mixcraft pro set it up used everything from mixcraft i.e. reverb, compressor eq, etc .

Done a wee recording and it blew away a lot of the rest.

Amazing I'm in awe.
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#442036 - 12/02/17 03:45 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Just think it would be great if we could see the headline "PGmusic aquires Cakewalk" or even to just get a licence to use the basic version Cakewalk Home studio, and then to somehow incorporate the generation of reaaltracks realdrums within it.

Overall I don't do much audio recording, but the lack of the basic tools with realband is a huge put off, you would think there would be a basic toolbox with split, select, range and mute tools, but no, though there are workarounds, and the small mixer window with half of the screen empty (at least on my computer) which I have been reliably informed is a "feature"

Anyhow as has been said We live in great times for music making software.

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#442056 - 12/02/17 07:03 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Larry Kehl]
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Originally Posted By: Larry Kehl
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PS BTW I see references to, and we discuss Sonar as if it were dead and had quick working on our machines.

It still works and it will work until MS pushes out new Win 10 "Features" set next spring, or next fall, or the updates after that, that do something to hinder Sonar from working. Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 STILL RUNS and functions on Win 10 (as does X3 and 8.5). It's like all those 1980 synths that have zero USB ports they ALL STILL WORK in Win 10 (if you use a 5-pin DIN MIDI connection). So Sonar may work for another 20 years or may stop with next spring Win 10 Feature update!



If you take your music computer off-line right now Sonar will last as long as your computer does and that is probably many years.
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#442148 - 12/02/17 02:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD


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If you take your music computer off-line right now Sonar will last as long as your computer does and that is probably many years.


Correct

While Sonar and I parted ways a while back - if you are Sonar dependent user there is no need to panic - the world hasn't ended, you can still use Sonar, as is, with no issues. However, and I repeat the only real risk is if used under Win 10 and you DO NOT take the machine offline as MarioD suggests the next Win 10 OS patch COULD render Sonar kaput. Although Sonar should continue to run fine in Win 7 forever!

this is not unlike some Cubase users who refuse to pay for .5 upgrades (as if it were a whole version upgrade) so they STAY with last version

Finally, caveat emptor: yes, there is a whole universe of other DAWs' - free, cheap, moderate, and as much as a new car (when I was a kid -LOL) - but just like CW any one of them can just as easily go "Tango Uniform" tomorrow.

Larry
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#442151 - 12/02/17 02:14 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jford]
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Hi Jford,
Thats the real sad thing the amount of time learning and knowing the DAW and feeling comfortable around it .I suppose you could say alot of the knowledge is transferable but the comfort and ease of use is not,.I hope it is acquired Hugh

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#442183 - 12/02/17 04:47 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Much of learning a DAW is indeed transferable. To me it’s similar to learning a new computer language: each successive new one is easier. I’m told foreign languages are the same way (I stopped after French).
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#442264 - 12/03/17 04:44 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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And of course, I just got an email for even another option.

But sale only lasts until December 6.
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#442267 - 12/03/17 05:25 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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The Cakewalk (SONAR) forum has never been busier. At the invite of some forum managers (while the forum still exists), vendors of other DAWs have been making presentations to attract SONAR users to change to their product, sometimes including special crossgrade pricing. Although SONAR should still work fine for years, most of us are actively exploring other options. Even if another company stepped in now, there would be a substantially smaller user base than before.
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#442286 - 12/03/17 07:16 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Matt, I just ran into this vid about Studio One 3.3 integration with Notion 6. It looks like it has your full score view.

https://www.gearnews.com/presonus-studio-one-v3-3-update/

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#442288 - 12/03/17 07:24 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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It does, thank you. Not a fan of Notion when I last tried it. Still looking but not vigorously, as SONAR still works.
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#442320 - 12/03/17 10:06 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jford]
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Wow, John. I just checked out the Samplitude Pro X Suite sale. Retail is over $1,300 for $149. I've read about it off and on for years and I've been looking for a high end mastering suite. I don't have time to research this, do comparisons to Ozone, T-Racks and others. To me this is an absolute no brainer and I just bought it. Here's a vid that describes everything the Suite has and holy crap, it's a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LKZvN4fyes

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#442327 - 12/03/17 10:59 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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#442336 - 12/03/17 11:49 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
Wow, John. I just checked out the Samplitude Pro X Suite sale. Retail is over $1,300 for $149. I've read about it off and on for years and I've been looking for a high end mastering suite. I don't have time to research this, do comparisons to Ozone, T-Racks and others. To me this is an absolute no brainer and I just bought it. Here's a vid that describes everything the Suite has and holy crap, it's a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LKZvN4fyes

Bob


Good for you Bob, I'm glad someone snapped this up. And as I count my remaining tuppence I still have my eyes on a few other things. The season ain't over yet. grin
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#442340 - 12/03/17 12:08 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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So much stuff to buy, so little money to buy it with!

smile

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#442344 - 12/03/17 12:17 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jazzmammal]
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BOB request

I agree Samplidtude @ $149 IS a no brainier but others beware: I'm fairly certain (just based on kvr and teh magix forum reads) that all those good sounds and plugs that come with it can NOT be used outside Samplitude without paying additional fees.

So the request Bob is could do a FAST TEST of just one sound set and one FX plug in some other DAW just to see if they will work outside Samplitude? THANKS



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But beyond just that one we have lots of choices

Reaper $60

Mixcraft Pro $179 (but that’s MSRP – surely a sale will pop-up AGAIN for $149 soon?) if no sale then $152.15 at JRR shop at checkout (I do like the CS80 clone add-in ME80)

Studio One 3 Pro (crossgrade) $149

Cubase 9.5 Crossgrade (sweetwater only it seems) $255 but you also need a $39 eLicenser dongle.

Tracktion Waveform (just missed sale) upgrade $150 (but from what? maybe can crossgrade as well? $150 ) if not then Waveform Ultimate at JRR shop list $200 but $180 at checkout.

FL12 Studio Producer $169.15 at JRR shop (list 199, put in cart and at checkout it’s 169.15).

and I'm sure I missed half a dozen ON sale and/or under $200 DAWs with lots of add-ins (Reaper is only bare bones one unless you consider audio Reaplugs as "lots")

Larry
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#442354 - 12/03/17 12:57 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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I read that somewhere too but I don't care. I won't be testing anything until I finish my move. I bought a house and the truck is coming Tuesday morning so as you can imagine I'm drowning in packing boxes right now.

I happened to see this when I was taking a break and just grabbed it. I'll figure it out later but I already know it's very well regarded. Is it the best, who knows? What's the best anyway, it's all personal taste but at least this is certainly in the conversation with Waves, Ozone, Audition, T Racks and other suites. The fact that it's a DAW too is just icing for me. Looks like fun.

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#442357 - 12/03/17 01:29 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: jazzmammal]
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hi bob i bought it to could resist lots to learn this is top notch software fantastic deal of the year eric

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#442361 - 12/03/17 01:40 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Matt Finley]
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MATT

Just an FYI on this Samplitude sale in case you didn't read this (I have no Idea if good, bad, or huh!)

""Music notation From idea to finished score: Music notation in Samplitude Pro X3 displays MIDI data as notes in real time. When you edit the piano roll, all changes are displayed right in the score. And vice versa, edits to notes in the score are transferred to the MIDI editor. Individual notations can be selected by clicking on them, and you can also edit pitch, velocity and length in the parameters. When your composition is finished, you can easily print the data as sheet music.

Read more: http://www.magix.com/us/samplitude/music-production-composition/
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#442373 - 12/03/17 02:15 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Thanks Larry.

Everybody, you can save time by not sending me any more suggestions. I really appreciate it but right now I'm well into other music projects with deadlines. SONAR isn't going anywhere yet.

I have very specific needs for notation both in an out of a DAW and I'll know it when I see it. Unfortunately, there is no substitute for trying out everything and I'll get to it.

I've been a beta tester for notation software for decades and tried about everything available. I've also worked with all kinds of DAWs both in and out of the studio, recording and mixing albums. I'll be OK.

But thanks everyone!! You folks are great.
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#442376 - 12/03/17 02:25 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
So I ask anybody who has ever changed DAW. Why did you change?
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I am STILL waiting to hear any specific objections to Pro Tools. All I am hearing is "It's too hard."

Eddie, I suspect the answer to the first question is because they had to. I don't know why anyone would do it voluntarily.

As to the second question, I certainly did give you a specific objection. Yes, it's hard, but that wasn't what I said. I cited stability. In every studio I've worked in where they use it, the engineer spends time swearing at it and rebooting the system. That's a pretty good reason for me if the everyday experts have trouble. And this is on Macs, supposedly more trouble-free.
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