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#442356 - 12/03/17 01:18 PM [Off-Topic] Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ...
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or do I need a multi-core processor ?

I had a Presonus Firepod, Native Instruments, and BB running on my core-i7....and it recently died...wondering if running these 3 at the same time really uses all the cores, or if I could save some money with a core i3 build.

Anybody have any experience running these or similar programs on an i3 ? Did it hiccup ?

As always, thanks in advance.

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#442359 - 12/03/17 01:33 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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My backup PC is an Intel Core 2 Duo, far less in power than an i3. BIAB works fine.

I have no idea about the NI stuff, though.

Check the single-core Geekbench score and report it here.
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#442431 - 12/03/17 05:41 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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Matt - do you run a DAW at the same time as your BIAB ?


Edited by Joe V (12/03/17 05:41 PM)

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#442434 - 12/03/17 06:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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I can, although I don’t normally on that PC. It’s not a stock PC and I weed out unnecessary programs when I build one.
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#442488 - 12/04/17 02:43 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
I can, although I don’t normally on that PC. It’s not a stock PC and I weed out unnecessary programs when I build one.

You mean you don't buy an off-the-shelf job, absolutely loaded with bloatware?
(neither do I wink )
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#442514 - 12/04/17 05:46 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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Yes, it should run just fine. I ran a Duo Core on an off the shelf stock laptop as well, with Vista as the OS, and an external focusrite interface. Everything ran fine and at the same time.

And I have NI on it... Komplete 6 was the version.

Note that when running Sonar on the laptop I was able to really load that processor down when I had the right plugs installed and loaded.... Melodyne, Ozone, and a few others.... I could get the CPU meter up into the 70%+ range easily. That did cause a few issues on occasion. Freezing the tracks often solved the CPU crunch. My current i5 Intel machine barely goes over 25% under a full load. I think the i3 should be a fine processor.
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#442529 - 12/04/17 06:56 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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HI

YES as you see from below I run mine on an Asus N55 laptop this is i3
Like Mat I have weeded out all the bloat ware .

I have a Sona project that has 22 separate instances / tracks of Kontakt 5 no prob. see my Towards the light composition on my front website page (link below)

Also I have multiple Kontakt 5 vsti tracks in both BIAB and Real band songs.
I do use an Akai EIE pro audio interface.
Have fun
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#442894 - 12/05/17 04:22 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Is a core-i3 dual core enough to power BB, a DAW, and Native Instruments ... [Re: Joe V]
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Some i3 are significantly faster than some i5s

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