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#443203 - 12/07/17 03:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music
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Based on your web pages, the Video RealTracks seem to be your hot new feature for 2018. They are certainly interesting and I am sure they required a lot of effort to develop. But I am not clear as to what they are for and how useful they will be.

Perhaps they are useful for learning a generated RealTrack? But when I watched your example video it seems that the hands jump around as clips are spliced together and this seems problematic for using as a learning aid.

I guess these could be used as part of a music video but that seems like something I might do once and then not repeat in any subsequent songs. Plus, the spliced, jerky hand movements would prolly not work in a production video (at least for me).

So I have a few questions...

1) what are these intended to be used for beyond possible learning aids and one-off usage in a music video?

2) what are the plans for these?

3) will you be adding them to all existing RealTracks?

4) will you be adding them to all new RealTracks moving forward?

5) will they always cost extra? frankly I did not see the value so I did not order the additional pak of them.

6) will the RealTracks used in the Video RealTracks be included with the regular RealTracks for those of us who have no interest in the Video RealTracks or will this create a new group where the only way to get those RealTracks is to buy the Video RealTracks?

7) are ALL keys included in the videos? for example, if I set up my song to be in the key of C and later transpose it to ANY OTHER KEY, will a newly rendered video show the musician playing the new tracks in their correct positions on guitar, piano, etc.?

8) are all chords and chord variations that come in the RealTracks also present in the Video RealTracks or are substitutions made for the more "exotic" chords?


As I said I am sure it took a lot of effort to create these and I certainly appreciate the skill it took to make this all work together. I'd just like help in understanding their use and also your plans going forward.


Also, I'd welcome anyone else's thoughts on what these could be used for.


Edited by JohnJohnJohn (12/07/17 04:16 PM)
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#443205 - 12/07/17 03:39 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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I'm remaining optimistic, but I'm still not sure why or how these came about.

Yes, it would be great to have a statement from PG Music on the intended use, and the overall value to users, and also if they will eventually be covering all existing RealTracks.

The lack of smooth articulation in the presentation makes it quite difficult to anticipate the performers next move. I think this is a critical issue if the performances are expected to be used as a demonstration / learning tool.

It will be useful to see what PGM has to say about the purpose, as I don't recall this ever being in the wishlist.
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#443420 - 12/07/17 02:53 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#443556 - 12/08/17 08:50 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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I too must admit I've been scratching my head over this strange and seemingly rather pointless 'feature' confused
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#443689 - 12/08/17 07:54 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#443898 - 12/09/17 07:58 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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#444027 - 12/10/17 12:48 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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I guess the questions in this thread will not be answered, at least not directly! smirk But I did see one of the questions answered on another thread.

6) will the RealTracks used in the Video RealTracks be included with the regular RealTracks for those of us who have no interest in the Video RealTracks or will this create a new group where the only way to get those RealTracks is to buy the Video RealTracks?

http://www.pgmusic.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=443432&Searchpage=1&Main=65777&Words=PeterGannon&Search=true#Post443432

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#444347 - 12/11/17 01:59 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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This video gives a good overview of Video RealTracks, if you haven't watched it yet.
http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=-Ge0plRJxZ4


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will the RealTracks used in the Video RealTracks be included with the regular RealTracks


Yes, to be clear there are no RealTracks that are ONLY video. Video RealTracks are extra video files that accompany existing RealTracks, and they aren't required for those RealTracks to work fully by themselves with no video.

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will you be adding them to all existing RealTracks?

- No this is unlikely.

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are ALL keys included in the videos?

- Yes

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will they always cost extra? frankly I did not see the value so I did not order the additional pak of them.


- Currently one VRT set is included in the Free bonus PAK, one set in the 49PAK, and the others are an additional purchase.


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are all chords and chord variations that come in the RealTracks

- Yes the videos show the entire RealTrack.
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#444352 - 12/11/17 02:26 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: Andrew - PG Music]
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Originally Posted By: Andrew - PG Music
This video gives a good overview of Video RealTracks, if you haven't watched it yet.
http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=-Ge0plRJxZ4


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will the RealTracks used in the Video RealTracks be included with the regular RealTracks


Yes, to be clear there are no RealTracks that are ONLY video. Video RealTracks are extra video files that accompany existing RealTracks, and they aren't required for those RealTracks to work fully by themselves with no video.

Quote:
will you be adding them to all existing RealTracks?

- No this is unlikely.

Quote:
are ALL keys included in the videos?

- Yes

Quote:
will they always cost extra? frankly I did not see the value so I did not order the additional pak of them.


- Currently one VRT set is included in the Free bonus PAK, one set in the 49PAK, and the others are an additional purchase.


Quote:
are all chords and chord variations that come in the RealTracks

- Yes the videos show the entire RealTrack.



Thank you Andrew!

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#444422 - 12/11/17 05:43 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Come on, whats not to like about this.... grin

* Video RealTracks new feature in Band in a Box 2018
https://youtu.be/-Ge0plRJxZ4
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#444454 - 12/11/17 07:37 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Video RealTracks Questions for PG Music [Re: MusicStudent]
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Come on, whats not to like about this.... grin

* Video RealTracks new feature in Band in a Box 2018
https://youtu.be/-Ge0plRJxZ4

I've watched the video...expressed my appreciation for the effort...still don't see the usefulness.

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