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#439171 - 11/21/17 09:27 AM [Off-Topic] calkwalk anoucement sad news
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hi guys i have been a user for a long time so sad they are not going to develope sonars and products so sad for the sonar team eric

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#439183 - 11/21/17 09:45 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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#439201 - 11/21/17 10:12 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Whoa.
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#439207 - 11/21/17 10:18 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Well after just downloading Sonar Home Studio less than a week ago, and really surprised how good it is, this is a surprising announcement.

I take it they will keep all the products and serials downloads on the site, or will they/

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#439234 - 11/21/17 10:56 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Matt Finley]
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whoa is right

Even though I've weened (well weening) off of it this is going to cause a lot of nervous folks issues/ulcers and start all kinds of rumors.

What that announcement didn't say was whether CAKEWALK would as a subdivision would be cut loose, sold off, or folded-up. I suspect it will be still be around but under new ownership of one kind or another or sold-off/bought by old rivals (e.g., Steinberg/Yamaha) who can take parts that shore up the weaker parts of their own product.

All those that think they know how to write real-time DAW SW better than the next guy - here's your chance


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#439237 - 11/21/17 11:00 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Nothing when you go on the website and go to account , I got an email to upgrade or pay 1 year for updates.

Weird one !
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#439241 - 11/21/17 11:02 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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from cakewalk forum

Cakewalk Announcement
After 30 years of Cakewalk's long and illustrious history, I am saddened to announce that we ceased new product development and reduced overall operations this past Friday. You can read the formal announcement from Gibson here, which states that this decision was made in order to align with the company’s acquisition strategy, focused on growth in the global consumer electronics audio business.
 
Working at Cakewalk has been an incredibly positive experience for all of us who worked here. This can largely be attributed to the incredible people who worked here, past and present. I've been at Cakewalk 19 years and I've never come across a more dedicated and talented group of people. Our greatest motivation was the joy in producing software for an astonishingly passionate base of artists, musicians and producers who used our software to create music on a daily basis.
 
So what does this mean for you, our loyal customers who've been with us all these years? Cakewalk's servers will continue to operate, you will still have access to all of your online assets, and your software will continue to work normally. A dedicated team has been established during this transition period to continue to serve the Cakewalk community. Monthly updates to SONAR from Cakewalk will however cease during this time. We will continue to post notifications to keep you informed with any relevant developments. A sincere thank you to everyone in the Cakewalk community.
 
Sincerely,
Noel Borthwick,
CTO, Cakewalk
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#439263 - 11/21/17 11:47 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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Well.... that bites.

I;m thinking they will do a spin off since there's a solid recording platform that lots of people love and use. Although...... I could be wrong and this is just the beginning of the end for the beloved Cakewalk line.

Never fear, it will keep working, until it doesn't, and then there will always be another DAW to use..... and perhaps RB will rise to the occasion to fill the void.
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#439269 - 11/21/17 11:59 AM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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#439270 - 11/21/17 12:01 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Time to buy Pro Tools.



gahhhhhh! I'll keep Sonar going as long as possible.
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#439277 - 11/21/17 12:17 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Time to buy Pro Tools.
Goodness, no. But there are other choices.
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#439292 - 11/21/17 12:53 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Matt Finley]
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Originally Posted By: Matt Finley
Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Time to buy Pro Tools.
Goodness, no. But there are other choices.


Concur on that one


And to GuitarHacker - the next "neato" Win 10 "Feature" update (that no one asked for) this spring could bring Sonar, as it sits, to a halt or begin to cause intermittent "hiccups," without CW developers staying on top of the ever changing OS mods (they ain't all about or for OS security and OS integrity)


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on soapbox:

I really wish MS would knock off the feature updates (feature updates should ALL be optional and immaterial to underlying OS framework and security base code).

Security patches and preemptive mods are great! FEATURE MODS not so much (from a business user/support developer perspective)

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#439294 - 11/21/17 12:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: Guitarhacker]
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Originally Posted By: Guitarhacker
Well.... that bites. I;m thinking they will do a spin off since there's a solid recording platform that lots of people love and use. Although...... I could be wrong and this is just the beginning of the end for the beloved Cakewalk line.


I kind of agree with that guess and hope you are correct....guess we'll see.
I began with Twelve Tone Systems back in 1994 with Cakewalk 3.0 and purchased every upgrade.
I have always felt confident in recommending their DAW platform.

I'm on X3 and was not interested in going with the new subscription paradigm a year or two ago.
I'm 70 so X3 with happily outlive me for my uses.
I would never go the Pro Tools route for a couple reasons and I think their are many other viable choices for those just starting out.

I'm sad to see this occurring but I guess that's the nature of this ever changing industry.

Carry on....
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#439296 - 11/21/17 01:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: F.M.M.]
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There will come a day when all the others have stopped supporting or producing and only Pro Tools will be left standing. What then?

Once Steve helped me get my Focusrite to play nice with Pro Tools, it is glorious. It is simple to use and is the industry standard. The automation tunnels, the sub grouping... it's great. My timing was exquisite though, buying it just as I was pretty much saying goodbye to music. I just don't get why you all hate it so much. Because to hobbyists it is relatively expensive? By that logic, you should also play a guitar that came from Toys'R'Us because it is cheap.

I wonder how many people who hate Pro Tools have never tried it beyond one short test song, possibly never tried it, or because it was too expensive to buy and then if you hate it you are out $600? Every kid who loves Brussels Sprouts now had to be convinced to try that first sprout... It's only money, and nobody here seems to be all that destitute, not when I read posts about $4500 keyboard purchases.

I mean, I don't care what anybody else does, but you guys cling to this software like a bear protecting her cubs. I remember the onslaught I got a few years back from one guy telling my why I just HAD to try Reaper and I would love it. Why? Because YOU like it? I see this in every field. What people are comfortable with suddenly becomes THE BEST. All I am saying is that the studio industry standard is Pro Tools, I bought a copy, I took a class to demystify it, and now I like it, though I rarely use it (or anything else) anymore. None of them are Real Band, which writes and plays music for me.


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#439302 - 11/21/17 01:19 PM [Off-Topic] Re: calkwalk anoucement sad news [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
There will come a day when all the others have stopped supporting or producing and only Pro Tools will be left standing. What then?


Ha....good question.....I'll have returned to star dust by then. smile

If you were addressing my comment?
I don't hate Pro Tools and all competitors in this market have their place with dedicated users.
PT is just too much money, too proprietary from my standpoint.
I'm not a professional musician any more anyway and no one is knocking on my door telling me how great my song writing drivel is.

If I had to learn a new DAW I'd try some demos of the more cost effective ones to see which interface/workflow that felt intuitive to me.
Plenty of 3rd party add-on's to select where the new DAW of choice is limited.
But, that's just me....to each their own.

Like yourself, I don't have the same verve and drive in the musical sense since I was able to finish my last (5) songs thanks to BIAB.

Back to it....



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