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#442220 - 12/02/17 09:22 PM [RealBand] Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand
JoanneCooper Offline
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Hello all

Something went wrong with RealBand and I cant open my BIAB (SGU) files in RealBand. To try and remedy it, I deleted my entire installation of BB and Realband and reinstalled from my hard dive but still the same problem.

It does come up with an error "BBOutput.txt not found" but I am not sure if that is related.

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#442221 - 12/02/17 09:37 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
Noel96 Offline
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Joanne,

Try this and see if it helps...

1. Start up Realband and don't load anything.

2. Go into the Audio settings and set them to MME (#2 on image) rather than "Windows Driver" (which seems to be the default now).

MME is always the best driver to use when trying to problem-solve.

3. After making the changes, close RB so that the settings are written to the configuration files.

4. Re-open RB and see if the song opens now.

5. I'd also disable the options I've highlighted as #3

6. Also, check that the "Run as administrator" option is still working. It might be that the installation reset this.


I had a similar problem and I found that prior to opening the song I wanted to work on from BIAB, I first needed to load in the demo song for one of the RB styles and generate it. That seemed to give the program a bit of 'kick' and get it going.

Let me know how you go.

Regards,
Noel


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#442222 - 12/02/17 09:40 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
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In addition...

If you purchased BIAB 2017 on a USB drive, you should be able to plug that drive in and use RB 2017 directly from the drive.

Regards again,
Noel
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#442225 - 12/02/17 10:02 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
JoanneCooper Offline
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Hi Noel

Thanks for the quick response. Tried both of those options and also tried running Realband directly from my hard drive. Same problem.

The problem is related to generating realtracks because I opened a fresh file and typed in some chords and then tried to just select one track and generate a realtrack. It just hangs. Then if I press escape it says "BBOutput.txt not found. I sometimes see a yellow flashing message on the bottom rhs of the screen but cant catch it to see what it says.


Edited by JoanneCooper (12/02/17 10:03 PM)

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#442226 - 12/02/17 10:13 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
Noel96 Offline
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Joanne,

BBOutput.txt is found in \Realband\Data. I don't know if the following will help but it's worth trying (even though it sound like you might not have BBOutput.txt it could be a corrupt file).

1. Close Realband.

2. Navigate to \Realband\Data and rename the file to BBOutput.txt.old

Doing this forces Realband to create a new version of the file.

3. Start Realband.

4. Does this help at all.


Note: I just tried this on my system and it worked fine. Also, if you need to get back to the original file, simply close RB and rename BBOutput.txt.old to BBOutput.txt

Regards,
Noel
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#442230 - 12/03/17 12:24 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
JoanneCooper Offline
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Hi Noel

I installed 2018 version and the first time I tried I had the same problem! I then created a new BIAB file and opened that up in RB and it seems to have sorted itself out.... Thanks for the help.

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#442239 - 12/03/17 01:55 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
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Glad to hear that you've got it sorted.
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#442250 - 12/03/17 03:20 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: Noel96]
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I have a similar issue since I installed RealBand 2018. If I open up Realband then attempt to open up a BIAB file RealBand just sits there. I cannot do anything with it. I have to end the program using Windows task manager. This creates issue as it lock up ASIO drivers.

If however I open RealBand create a 4 bar song generate it then I have no issues load BIAB files.
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#442256 - 12/03/17 03:55 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
lambada Offline
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I have exactly the same problem. If I create a song in Realband and then delete it and call up a BIAB song it's fine, otherwise Realband hangs. Must be a bug. I generate the Realtracks once I'm in Realband, but I don't think that would make any difference.

I also got an out of time midi guitar track. Not sure why. I just deleted it.


Edited by lambada (12/03/17 03:55 AM)
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#442263 - 12/03/17 04:44 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
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I'm in the same boat with Real Band so will see if the above contributions sorts it out.
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#442315 - 12/03/17 09:28 AM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
DonMusic Offline
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Same problem. I'll try the suggestions made so far and report back.
Even SEQ files will not open, everything freezes . . .

Don

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#442371 - 12/03/17 02:10 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
DonMusic Offline
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Real Band 2017 was AOK on two computers (both with Windows 10), one a desktop, the other a laptop.

Real Band 2018 (build 2) downloaded and now both computers have this problem:
Will not load a SEQ file or a BIAB file - program freezes.
Note - when attempting to open the styles list I get the following message on both computers:
..........................................................................
"bbw2.exe - System Error
The code execution cannot proceed because libsndfile-1.DLL
was not found. Reinstalling the program may fix this problem."
..........................................................................
I checked the program files and it's there exactly as shown above: libsndfile-1.DLL

I don't remember how, but I managed to get one sequence file loaded and it plays okay until I try to load another or try to open the styles list. Any attempt to do these things freezes the program and requires shutdown via the task manager.

Don



Edited by DonMusic (12/03/17 03:21 PM)

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#442445 - 12/03/17 07:29 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: DonMusic]
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If I generate a small song. Say 4 bars then I open up a BIAB file all works fine. I must generate the small file first.
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#442460 - 12/03/17 09:36 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: JoanneCooper]
Jeff Yankauer Offline
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If Running RB 2018, make sure libsndfile-1.dll is present in your Realband\data folder. If not, then bbw2.exe can't run at all and that can cause RB to freeze up. You can copy it from the RealBand folder to the data folder if it's not present in the data folder. I don't know why, but I installed RB 2018 onto a Win10 computer and for some reason libsndfile-1.dll didn't install to the data subfolder of RealBand and it should have.
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#442471 - 12/03/17 10:53 PM [RealBand] Re: Help! unable to open BIAB files in RealBand [Re: Jeff Yankauer]
Teunis Offline
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Seems better now. Copied libsndfile-1.dll to the RealBand/data folder and can now open BIAB work. Thanks
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