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Hiya Guys
I am a complete newbie to BIAB and have just downloaded the 2018 UltraPak version. I would love to know the technique that professional users go through when they decide to cover another artists track.
I play guitar and sing but would like to know essentially if there is a technique to take a recording and separate it so that the various parts are played separately, e.g. drums, bass, guitar, vocals etc. within BIAB. This would then allow me to cover the track by deactivating the parts I want to cover and keeping other parts that I cannot perform.
My ultimate goal being to try and replicate the parts using my own playing and style but this would come later.
I am looking to cover Connells' '74-'75
Any and all suggestions welcome. Thanks in advance.
If this topic has been covered in another section then by all means move this post to the most relevant forum section.
Regards
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If you are trying to do the cover pretty much exactly as recorded, BIAB is not going to be able to help you here. That's not how it works nor what it was ever designed to do.
BIAB generates the various parts based on defined styles (which can use defined MIDI riffs or RealTracks/RealDrums). While many can be "in the style" of some band or performer, they won't be the songs themselves. You get the sense of the sound of the performer, but not specific song riffs.
Yes, you can record your own riffs on the Melody and Soloist (and audio) tracks, but if that's all you do, you probably should just use a DAW, because the power of BIAB is in creating backing tracks according to the various style definitions.
As to an existing recording, breaking apart the various components (drums, guitar, bass, sax solo, etc) is akin to trying to "unbake" a cake. You can't get back to the flour, sugar, eggs, milk, cream, salt, etc. There are some audio tools that attempt to do that, but success is sporadic at best.
If you want true covers, your best bet would be to start with multi-track karaoke files.
But if you want to create your own version of an existing song, then all you need is the chord progression, a style you like, and any recorded riffs you wish to include. It won't sound like the original, but it will be your version of the song. You could record your own riffs (either via audio or MIDI for specific riffs that make the song identifiable), but BIAB isn't going to do that automatically for you.
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Hi Chadrips John is correct in that realtracks are not going to help go make a cover song sound exactly like the original. You can do that with midi and there are several ways to do that, like the method that John mentioned and also using an existing midi file as a base. However, if you are interested in making your own cover version of a song, I recently published a blog post on this topic. Maybe you will find it useful https://www.joannecooper.co.za/blog/blog/how-to-record-a-cover-song-using-band-in-a-box-and-realband
LyricLab A.I assisted chords and lyric app. Export lyrics and import directly into Band-in-a-Box 2024. https://lyriclab.net Play-along with songs you know and love, download SGU files https://playiit.com/
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Hiya Guys
Thanks so much for your help on this. I will take a look at more detail at your link Joanne as I really like your version of Auld Lang Syne. I reckon that I may well check out that course you have linked as i seems that I can fast track to my first demo with this information.
Could I ask what your go to resources are when looking to acquire or put together the various song parts please.
For instance I use Ultimate Guitar for my guitar tab (link below incase anyone wants it) but have never looked into how to access parts for other instruments, e.g. bass, midi, drums. What would your recommend for these parts please if you wanted to create your own style.
Also is there a resource whereby people have made covers of tracks and uploaded the BIAB files for other users to play around with please.
Thanks
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwimg5Hl74fYAhVoL8AKHctEDawQFggzMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ultimate-guitar.com%2F&usg=AOvVaw0mMIwY_iLFHziLqjujna4H
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Hi I also use ultimate guitar quite a bit. You can use www.music-notes.com for sheet music. Another way is just to find a midi file on the internet and open it in RealBand. RealBand will attempt to populate itself with the chords from the midi. You can check out the music score in midi for each of the instruments. I usually replace some of the rhythm instruments with realtracks because the midi does not sound great for those. I l replace the rhythm guitar and piano as well as the drums wwith realtracks.
LyricLab A.I assisted chords and lyric app. Export lyrics and import directly into Band-in-a-Box 2024. https://lyriclab.net Play-along with songs you know and love, download SGU files https://playiit.com/
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