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#446016 - 12/19/17 07:00 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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I haven't tried it in 2018, but it has always previously worked in previous versions for me.

I could have:

| C..,F.. | G..,C.. |

and when I copy to other bars, it gets picked up in the destination bars. I'm not at my music machine right now, so can't test, but perhaps this got broken somehow in the new version. Maybe some other folks could try it (Videotrack?).

But I know I've done this many times before.
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#446038 - 12/19/17 09:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
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John-
I want just a shot on beat 2 which should also give silence on 1, 3 and 4
it reads Db.. on the 2nd beat

But it's not copying the shot nicely like it did on beat 1
regardless of the beat # (1 or 2) that I enter in the dialog window
Here's how the dialog appears
Copy rests from bar # 1
Num bars to copy 1
Copy to bar 5
Best # 1

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#446051 - 12/19/17 10:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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I'll give it a try this evening and report back.
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#446070 - 12/19/17 11:54 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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OK, this is what I tried and the results.

As an aside: BiaB won't allow me to have no chord on beat 1 of bar 1, when I generate it adds the chord from the key signature on bar 1 beat 1. So I just add a period to make it a rest, and it doesn't play. OK.

1: My chart looks like the first image and plays correctly.

2: If I try Edit > Copy Special > Copy Rests... to copy the rest from beat 2 of bar 1 to bar 5, it doesn't perform anything, as there is no note on bar 5 (see second image)

3: I add a note to beat 2 of bar 5 (see image 3)

4: and perform the copy again, and beat 2 of bar 5 now has the Shot rest. (see 4th image)

Note that it is important to select the Beat as well as the Bar number from the source




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#446084 - 12/19/17 12:32 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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My bad; now that I think about it, you need the chord in the destination for the copy rests to work.

But that lets you enter the chord progression without having to worry about dots.

Also, it will copy the exceptions as well; so if you enter C7..pb (play a C7 shot on all instruments except piano and bass), the "..pb" gets copies to the destination as well.
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#446138 - 12/19/17 03:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
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Videotrack and John....

Defining 1 chord of harmony per bar should be enough for BIAB to to able to copy shots, rests and pushes in a song. If this is not a "Copy Special' bug, it's a feature that wasn't well implemented.

A practical example of usage would be making a Charleston background— with a shot on 1.... and the AND of 2. And should've been coded to "Use the beat 1 chord harmony for all subsequent shots in the bar." As it works now, i believe you have to even manually define the 8th note pushes into each bar..... PLUS the chords ...before the shots will copy correctly. This is indeed an issue that needs to be tweaked to become practical.





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#446275 - 12/20/17 06:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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Okay, now I'm confused. Are you saying you want shots to play on certain beats when there are no chords shown?

Shots/rests/holds only work with a specified chord. You can't just enter ".." where you want it to play.

Otherwise, yes, you have to enter your chord progression, and that means putting the chords where you want them (even those that are off the beat, or pushed). Then the shots/rests/holds command tells those chords what to do on that beat.

And as has been shown, the copy rests command applies that embellishment to the chords that are there.

I'm happy to help, but I'm just confused now.
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#446279 - 12/20/17 06:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
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Yes...my desires changed mid-stream, John. I initially wanted just a shot on the downbeat for stop time choruses. But your method (and the "H" method suggested...no dialogue needed) both worked so well, I realized that having shots at different parts of the beats could open possibilities of playing along with various accented "shot-beats" through a song.

Then came the realization ( with your 'my bad' post) ....that this is not a piece of cake—for there must be existing designated chords ALREADY on those beats in EVERY measure... in order to copy the initial special measure with the desired shots....or they simply won't copy.

But a simple additional checkbox in the Copy Special dialogue could tell the program to "Copy special" all desired shots and rests...and
1. USE THE FIRST BEAT CHORD....of the "bars being copied to" for ALL the chord-shots being duplicated into that bar.

Some will say "This sounds more like a STYLE you're creating.... than a shot/rest/push function." And I see the validity of that argument. But the coding is so close already, that checkbox would open rhythmic possibilities without having to create a new style from scratch.

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#446300 - 12/20/17 08:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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Once you get your song to sound right, you could take your song with all the shots in it, save it out to a MIDI file, then bring that MIDI file back in to a new BIAB project, then use the Style Wizard to create a new style that does what you are wanting in about a minute. That style could then be used for future projects that need it, and you wouldn't have to enter any double dots at all, because the riffs defined in the style already include the shots.
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#446319 - 12/20/17 09:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
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Just beautiful, John...though with that checkbox, Real Tracks would work as well as MIDI.
Thanks for all your input-

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