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#446138 - 12/19/17 03:05 PM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
axelrod Offline
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Videotrack and John....

Defining 1 chord of harmony per bar should be enough for BIAB to to able to copy shots, rests and pushes in a song. If this is not a "Copy Special' bug, it's a feature that wasn't well implemented.

A practical example of usage would be making a Charleston background— with a shot on 1.... and the AND of 2. And should've been coded to "Use the beat 1 chord harmony for all subsequent shots in the bar." As it works now, i believe you have to even manually define the 8th note pushes into each bar..... PLUS the chords ...before the shots will copy correctly. This is indeed an issue that needs to be tweaked to become practical.





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#446275 - 12/20/17 06:18 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
jford Offline
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Okay, now I'm confused. Are you saying you want shots to play on certain beats when there are no chords shown?

Shots/rests/holds only work with a specified chord. You can't just enter ".." where you want it to play.

Otherwise, yes, you have to enter your chord progression, and that means putting the chords where you want them (even those that are off the beat, or pushed). Then the shots/rests/holds command tells those chords what to do on that beat.

And as has been shown, the copy rests command applies that embellishment to the chords that are there.

I'm happy to help, but I'm just confused now.
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#446279 - 12/20/17 06:42 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
axelrod Offline
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Yes...my desires changed mid-stream, John. I initially wanted just a shot on the downbeat for stop time choruses. But your method (and the "H" method suggested...no dialogue needed) both worked so well, I realized that having shots at different parts of the beats could open possibilities of playing along with various accented "shot-beats" through a song.

Then came the realization ( with your 'my bad' post) ....that this is not a piece of cake—for there must be existing designated chords ALREADY on those beats in EVERY measure... in order to copy the initial special measure with the desired shots....or they simply won't copy.

But a simple additional checkbox in the Copy Special dialogue could tell the program to "Copy special" all desired shots and rests...and
1. USE THE FIRST BEAT CHORD....of the "bars being copied to" for ALL the chord-shots being duplicated into that bar.

Some will say "This sounds more like a STYLE you're creating.... than a shot/rest/push function." And I see the validity of that argument. But the coding is so close already, that checkbox would open rhythmic possibilities without having to create a new style from scratch.

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#446300 - 12/20/17 08:26 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: axelrod]
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Once you get your song to sound right, you could take your song with all the shots in it, save it out to a MIDI file, then bring that MIDI file back in to a new BIAB project, then use the Style Wizard to create a new style that does what you are wanting in about a minute. That style could then be used for future projects that need it, and you wouldn't have to enter any double dots at all, because the riffs defined in the style already include the shots.
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#446319 - 12/20/17 09:05 AM [Band-in-a-Box for Windows] Re: Turn a GROUP of Highlighted Bars into..... SHOTS? [Re: jford]
axelrod Offline
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Just beautiful, John...though with that checkbox, Real Tracks would work as well as MIDI.
Thanks for all your input-

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