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#446562 - 12/21/17 11:55 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: jford]
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Originally Posted By: jford
That was a typo. The ^^ is to push by a 16th note.


Thanks John. You taught ME on that one! My brain will remember that each carat cuts the value of the note in half and that they are exponential. 1/4 x 1/2 = 1/8, 1/8 x 1/2 = 1/16.

You may have actually helped me make 1/2 note triplets! laugh
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#446570 - 12/21/17 12:22 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: eddie1261]
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Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Still interested in knowing what your music background is.
(...)
So please share with us a little about your background. We are pretty friendly overall and very willing to help but we have to know what "language" to speak in.

I have been crazy about music to a fault since childhood, and I listen to lots of very different things. I have a good ear.

I am kind of a newbie in songwriting. I spent some of the last few years focused on lyrics. I used to find it difficult to write tunes, but I kept trying until something gave, the magic happened and now I write up tunes and arrangements in my head all the time. I used to run after them and now they come after me in all kinds of moments. I've found my own voice.

I am a complete newbie in dealing with musicians or actually making any music. I have recorded a few rough drafts, and though rough as they were, I really liked the shape they were taking. That was very exciting. But I realized I had to study more and acquire more command of the software or I would never get anything done. So I did. Meanwhile, I kept notes of all my ideas by singing or humming into a recorder. I just have to listen to one recording to remember the whole thing instantly, especially because most of those ideas played in my head for days like a radio. I don't even play by ear... yet. I just program the track note by note. But I have a keyboard and I've been trying to learn it. I hope to become reasonably fluent in it in about one year.

I guess it's just a natural evolution step for someone who has spent more time listening to music than a fish has ever spent swimming. smile

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#446580 - 12/21/17 12:49 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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Originally Posted By: Lucm

Now, question #1:
How/where do I find them?


and question #2:
What if I don't like the result?




You can find guitar players on most recording software forum websites. Joining is free.

You have to listen to their music to see if it's a good match. Obviously, you don't want to ask a heavy metal shredder to play on your country song so take the time and listen to what they do first.

Do you have Band in a Box? I ask because, while I play guitar fairly well, if I do say so, I will often simply use BB/RB guitar player tracks. with over 3000 styles, and hundreds of tracks.... You should be able to find something that works without having to go looking for live pickers.

My last song.... on my music page...and also in the Showcase is 100% BB/RT with no live picking from my guitars in it.
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#446588 - 12/21/17 01:22 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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Thanks John and Eddie for catching the typos. While "push" is the term used in BiaB - which is why I chose it - "anticipate" is the less ambiguous term.

I'm still curious, Lucm, if you've tried using the guitar RealTracks.
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#446589 - 12/21/17 01:40 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: dcuny]
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Originally Posted By: dcuny
I'm still curious, Lucm, if you've tried using the guitar RealTracks.

No, not yet. I'll look into it.

I am on a trip right now, writing from a notebook that doesn't even have sound. I won't have access to my desktop for another couple of weeks.

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#446634 - 12/21/17 09:15 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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Lucm you've gotten some really good suggestions.

How do you approach a musician?

With money, lots of money...

We're all starving you know and living in our parents basements.

Otherwise if you are near any music stores just go to them and ask around. Usually music stores are 10 to 1 guitarists to any other type of instrument. Also look for music teachers specializing in guitar including instructors at a local college. Many colleges have full recording studios in their music department.

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#446697 - 12/22/17 07:55 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: jazzmammal]
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Originally Posted By: jazzmammal
We're all starving you know and living in our parents basements.


No small feat for me since the last one died in 2001!!!
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#446702 - 12/22/17 08:16 AM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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I would suggest approaching a musician when he or she is NOT playing. smile
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#446924 - 12/23/17 02:03 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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In my neighborhood you can have your choice of guitar players on your porch in minutes, just order pizzas from all the competitors.

Sorry I could not let that opportunity for that joke go by.

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#446936 - 12/23/17 03:20 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Danny C.]
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Ba-dum bump! :-)
Originally Posted By: Danny C.
In my neighborhood you can have your choice of guitar players on your porch in minutes, just order pizzas from all the competitors.

Sorry I could not let that opportunity for that joke go by.

Best To You!


Hm... That reminds me I need to work on my novel.

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#446946 - 12/23/17 05:44 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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Originally Posted By: Lucm
Hm... That reminds me I need to work on my novel.


Me too!!

Although I suspect you meant WRITING one.....
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#446947 - 12/23/17 05:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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You know how to make a bass player mad?

Refuse to pay him for the pizza.
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#448089 - 12/30/17 02:01 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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#448100 - 12/30/17 04:04 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: silvertones]
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Originally Posted By: silvertones
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#448109 - 12/30/17 04:32 PM [Off-Topic] Re: How should I approach a musician? [Re: Lucm]
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Lots of good suggestions,here, Lucm. You've really nothing to lose if you do as Eddie suggests -- post the track and throw it open to suggestion or collaboration. Been done before.
Then, the obvious -- call your local recording studio. They come in all varieties. Rare is the one that does not have access to the range of studio musicians. Or, bring your own.
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