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#447065 - 12/24/17 12:24 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play????
Belladonna Offline
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I just purchased the 4 PAK Xtra tracks for Xmas hoping to play around with them, however like best laid plans they don't seem to work very well with my BIAB 2017 Pro version. The first new pattern for a new song was a World Celtic Harp that I liked and now it says Real Band does not have this instrument? I didn't see anything about having to upgrade Real Band for new instruments. A couple other new patterns I chose said the Real Band tracks weren't available. Anyone know what's up??

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#447072 - 12/24/17 12:34 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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Originally Posted By: Belladonna
I just purchased the 4 PAK Xtra tracks for Xmas hoping to play around with them, however like best laid plans they don't seem to work very well with my BIAB 2017 Pro version. The first new pattern for a new song was a World Celtic Harp that I liked and now it says Real Band does not have this instrument? I didn't see anything about having to upgrade Real Band for new instruments. A couple other new patterns I chose said the Real Band tracks weren't available. Anyone know what's up??

If you are talking about anything with new RealTracks I am pretty sure they make the new RealTracks only work with the new version of BIAB.

But, if you are referring to the "Xtra Styles PAK 4" then it says "These Xtra Styles require Band-in-a-Box® version 2017 or higher and use RealTracks from the UltraPAK or Audiophile Edition." which should mean they will work with 2017. However, the problem will likely be that your 2017 Pro version did not include the RealTracks being used in the styles. Remember, the styles paks do not include any RealTracks and they only group together existing RealTracks.

You should contact PG Music asap to verify and return the PAK if it will not work with what you already own.

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#447080 - 12/24/17 01:13 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
Remember, the styles paks do not include any RealTracks and they only group together existing RealTracks.


What? I did not know that.
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#447099 - 12/24/17 03:51 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
Belladonna Offline
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I have the 2017 BIAB Pro version which I purchased last May and then I added the upgrades and patches in September 2017. So for Xmas I decided to get the Xtra Styles 4 PAK and they said it worked with 2017 BIAB but did not specify that you had to have a certain BIAB or RB, otherwise I would have upgraded or at least knew that they wouldn't work with what I have. Disappointing to say the least.


Edited by Belladonna (12/24/17 03:53 PM)

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#447114 - 12/24/17 06:13 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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Yes,

Each Xtra PAK is a collection of styles. The Xtra styles may use ANY 2017 or earlier RealTrack so you need to have all RealTracks published as of 2017.

+++ This +++ page describes the Xtra PAKs. The screenshot below shows the boxed caution stating all RealTracks are required for the styles to work.

I would contact PG Music Sales after Christmas to determine your next course of action.


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xtra caution.jpg


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#447120 - 12/24/17 11:53 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
Belladonna Offline
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I did get more styles, but some of the instruments didn't translate over to Real Band and yes I am missing some instruments, like a harp that I wanted. Will have to get with PG after Xmas.

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#447149 - 12/25/17 07:50 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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I believe I read in another post you (Belladonna) have the Pro PAK. The Pro PAK is a great introduction to Band-in-a-Box and RealBand. That is the package I first purchased to learn about the capabilities of the two programs.

Unfortunately, the Pro Pak has the least amount of accessories. In a way that's a good thing because the lack of accessories lets you concentrate on learning program capabilities. When I upgraded to the UltraPlus PAK I spent more time listening than learning the programs. Of course that's fun too!
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#447223 - 12/25/17 05:48 PM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
Belladonna Offline
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Yeah! I went with the basic introductory one because I was not sure I could learn it or use it. Now that I can at least record a song, I am encouraged that I may be able to actually get better at it and may be ready for the next level.

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#447278 - 12/26/17 06:39 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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Keep in mind that PG Music have a 30-day, money-back guarantee on purchases (no questions asked).

If a product doesn't do what you purchased it to do, simply ask for a refund.

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#447294 - 12/26/17 09:14 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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Originally Posted By: Belladonna
Yeah! I went with the basic introductory one because I was not sure I could learn it or use it. Now that I can at least record a song, I am encouraged that I may be able to actually get better at it and may be ready for the next level.


The Band-in-a-Box and RealBand programs stay the same throughout all the various packages. What changes with each package is the amount of styles, Realtracks, MidiSuperTracks and RealDrums included.

It is unfortunate it is possible to come up with the N/A (not available) tag way too often.
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#447306 - 12/26/17 10:55 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
Belladonna Offline
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Thanks Jim, talking to them about my options and getting to the next level.

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#447307 - 12/26/17 10:57 AM [UserTracks (and other add-ons)] Re: 4 Pak Xtra Tracks Won't Play???? [Re: Belladonna]
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And to be clear, a lot of folks on the forum use the term "style" when they mean "RealTrack", which can lead to confusion, as they are not the same thing. Buying "RealStyles" packages only give you style files that reference existing RealTracks that are already on your computer. If you don't have the underlying RealTracks, the RealStyles are not going to work.

MIDI styles are different, in that the riffs used to create the sounds are defined directly in the style (no external dependencies). Hybrid styles (those with a mix of MIDI and RealTracks) will have MIDI defined in the style, but only reference the RealTracks (and require that they be on your machine).

And some styles may reference SuperMIDI tracks, which are separate, like RealTracks, but in MIDI format (they are not defined in the style, because they are processed by a different "engine" than regular MIDI tracks).

For the XTRA style packs to work, because they pull from RealTracks across many years of RealTrack development, you need to have one of the packages that include "all" the available RealTracks. The BIAB Pro version only includes enough RealTracks to whet your whistle to what BIAB can do. You really need to upgrade to the UltraPak to be able to really experience what BIAB has to offer.

I know this can get confusing, but this is how it works. Again, if you don't want to upgrade to the UltraPak, then contact PGMusic for a refund for the XTRA pak you purchased as part of their 30-day money back guarantee.
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