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#448295 - 12/31/17 05:41 PM [Off-Topic] Does this smell fishy to anyone else?
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I've just received the following to my SC message box and wondered what you all thought:

How's it going Icelander. I heard the song you uploaded the other day. I was really impressed by what I heard. I am actually a talent recruiter for NextGen Promotions and I'd be intersted in in helping you get your work greater exposure. I think you could really grow your fan base. Shoot me an email and we will talk further:

For one thing, I actually haven't uploaded anything to SoundCloud in months (until last night), and then there's that very vague "the other day" coupled with not even bothering to name said song that got him so "really impressed".crazy

Am I just being too cynical for my own good, or does anyone else smell something not quite 'fresh' here? confused

p.s. Oh, and that misspelled "intersted" is his, not mine grin
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#448296 - 12/31/17 05:46 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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#448299 - 12/31/17 06:03 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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I get a lot of these. They are never specific about what song they loved. Spam!

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#448310 - 12/31/17 06:38 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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I used to get those every day, 3 or 4 a day, yet my play count never increased. They are phishing for suckers.
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#448369 - 01/01/18 06:39 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: JohnJohnJohn]
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Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
I get a lot of these. They are never specific about what song they loved.
Yeah, that was the first red flag for me too. You'd think these "phishers" would make a little more effort, eh laugh

Right, then, I think the consensus here is as unanimous as it gets, thanks to all for the feedback - nice to see so many forum members actually agree on something grin
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#448379 - 01/01/18 07:14 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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Originally Posted By: Icelander
Originally Posted By: JohnJohnJohn
I get a lot of these. They are never specific about what song they loved.
Yeah, that was the first red flag for me too. You'd think these "phishers" would make a little more effort, eh laugh

Right, then, I think the consensus here is as unanimous as it gets, thanks to all for the feedback - nice to see so many forum members actually agree on something grin


Hilltop Records is another one to pass one and they can be specific.

I help a friend do a Christian song that he put up on SoundCloud. Hilltop Records contacted him and said they are doing a Christian album and for $500 they would see if that song fit the album. I told them they have heard the song so they should already know if the song fits but he insisted in sending them money. I told him if he hits it big he can keep all the money as I don't want anything to do with this. He hasn't brought up the topic since!
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#448386 - 01/01/18 07:20 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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These people are really misleading and giving false hope to musicians worldwide! I am convinced that I could put up a recording of my cat hurling up a hairball and they would want to promote it!! I personally know a very successful Nashville music publisher and he has repeatedly told me that good things happen for musicians through hard work and knocking on the right doors yourself (making as many friends as you can in the business). It's a shame that so many people fall for these con artists preying on these good folks hopes and dreams! Sorry for the rant, it kind of gets me mad! T
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#448391 - 01/01/18 07:30 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: MarioD]
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Originally Posted By: MarioD
<...snip...>and for $500 they would see if that song fit the album. <...>


If they want up front money, it's a scam. If they really want to promote you instead of take your money, they will invest their money for a portion of the profits.

But then, there is this Nigerian prince who needs to hide a few millions in my bank account, I just have to put up $50,000 to show him I'm honest.

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#448398 - 01/01/18 07:41 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Notes Norton]
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Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
But then, there is this Nigerian prince who needs to hide a few millions in my bank account, I just have to put up $50,000 to show him I'm honest.


I wonder what's going to happen to all that money when that prince dies and it turns out it was true but nobody took him up on his offer?

It could happen....


Edited by eddie1261 (01/02/18 03:27 PM)
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#448411 - 01/01/18 08:33 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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If you keep up with how many "listens" your tracks get, and there are no new ones, it's obvious they didn't listen, so I would assume it's just spam based on that alone.

Originally Posted By: Icelander
I've just received the following to my SC message box and wondered what you all thought:

How's it going Icelander. I heard the song you uploaded the other day. I was really impressed by what I heard. I am actually a talent recruiter for NextGen Promotions and I'd be intersted in in helping you get your work greater exposure. I think you could really grow your fan base. Shoot me an email and we will talk further:

For one thing, I actually haven't uploaded anything to SoundCloud in months (until last night), and then there's that very vague "the other day" coupled with not even bothering to name said song that got him so "really impressed".crazy

Am I just being too cynical for my own good, or does anyone else smell something not quite 'fresh' here? confused

p.s. Oh, and that misspelled "intersted" is his, not mine grin
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#448414 - 01/01/18 08:39 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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#448426 - 01/01/18 09:46 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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Also block them as spam and check the option to report them as spam to SC. I haven't gotten one in months after that.
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#448439 - 01/01/18 11:50 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: dcuny]
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Originally Posted By: dcuny


Hey that is my agent!

Lol
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#448440 - 01/01/18 11:51 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Torrey Bliss]
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"a recording of my cat hurling up a hairball", OK I might buy that.
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#448450 - 01/01/18 12:34 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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Well, if it worked for that third Shrek film... grin
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#448595 - 01/02/18 07:24 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Danny C.]
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Originally Posted By: Danny C.


Hey that is my agent!

Lol



laugh laugh laugh

I busted a gut on that one Danny!

Thanks.

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#448638 - 01/02/18 11:28 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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The industry has always been filled with parasitic scum suckers preying off the ignorant.

I could see Obi Wan overlooking Nashville saying his famous line about there not being a bigger den of villainy and such...



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#448846 - 01/03/18 11:47 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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And of course, it not only musicians they prey upon. A few months ago I got weekly calls from "Microsoft" telling me they noticed a virus on my computer ... ... ...

My responses vary by my mood.

And I can't count the number of e-mails telling me they are looking to loan businesses like mine money, (or in other variations buy it) and yet they don't even know my name.

And I just hung up my cell phone on that "Google Listing" call and it's variations that come again and again and again and again and again (my cell is a business line and therefor cannot be on the do-not-call list).

Everybody is out to get your money, most of them want to give you something in return, and others simply want to con you and give you nothing for it.

You have to be careful.

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#449162 - 01/04/18 08:49 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
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Back in the day, we called them song sharks. I’ve not heard that term since the early ‘80s—long before the internet–but the scam was the same: they always want you to pay to play.

Before the internet, they ran little ads in all the trade magazines (except Songwriter that refused to run them) and passed out flyers and trade shows.
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#449288 - 01/05/18 11:01 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Notes Norton]
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And of course, it not only musicians they prey upon. A few months ago I got weekly calls from "Microsoft" telling me they noticed a virus on my computer ...


My record for keeping one of them on the line is 55 minutes. I quickly booted a virtual machine so I could play with her, and she started, in her broken English, to try and get be to the join.me web page to set up a remote connection so she could "fix my problem". And I played it perfectly dumb, like when she told me to type www., I typed in double you, double you.... and at every turn I did something ridiculous like that. 55 minutes!!

The loopholes they have are many. First of all, the "do not call list" is meaningless. It stops nobody from calling. It stops people from being CAUGHT calling. They know very well that NOBODY is going to through all the hoops and red tape to report them. And if they DO get reported, what is going to happen? No TV for a week? Offenders get 4 warnings before they are fined on the 5th report. Then there is the gray area that "they" didn't call me. A computer called me, so sue the computer. (And that defense DID work in a court case about 4 years ago.) Then you have the aspect that they are creating Google phone VOIP numbers, which are not bound by FCC law. AND THEN, they are in India and Pakistan and not bound by the law of the USA. We simply have no defense.

When I laugh is the indignant people who scream "How did you get MY number?" as if Jugdish in Bangalore is actually dialing phone numbers. I just got tired of explaining how robodialers dial every number in a prefix until they get a sucker to answer an play along. Those same people send money to the Nigeria Prince.

You are in a spot. You HAVE to answer your business phone. I don't answer my phone if the call is not from someone in my contacts. If it matters, they will leave a message.
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