Page 2 of 2 < 1 2
You need to be logged in to post on the forum
Topic Options
Index
#449454 - 01/06/18 06:01 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
Notes Norton Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/06/00
Posts: 4371
Loc: Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.
Originally Posted By: eddie1261
<...snip...> You are in a spot. You HAVE to answer your business phone. I don't answer my phone if the call is not from someone in my contacts. If it matters, they will leave a message.


Yes, I have to answer the business phone, and it can't be on the do-not-call list so even the ethical who check the list will call me.

Plus as a business, I get all kinds of B2B calls about "my free google listing" (that's the most frequent), credit card merchants accounts (I'm fine with the one I've had since the 1990s), business loans (I don't want to borrow money if I have to pay it back, and if I did, I wouldn't trust a spam call), and the list goes on and on.

More often than not, I try to keep it short so as not to waste my time. Robocalls are easy, I just hang up. Big commercial calling houses are treated the same (that silence for a few seconds after you say hello is a giveaway), if it's just a poor person wanting to make ends meet by taking what must be the worst job in the world I say "No thank you" and hang up, and if it's a local company doing their own calls, I'll be a little more polite before I hang up.

But my own personal policy is I don't go for any unsolicited calls, e-mails, or direct mail ads. If I need something, I'll seek out a vendor. I'm too skeptical to trust someone who tells me I'm pre-approved for a $250K business loan and doesn't even know my name.

Answering the spam calls is an inconvenience, but at least they aren't door-to-door sales people or those religious proselytizers that make me leave my work space to say "No thank you".

The lesson for me is to not let the interruption bother me, but to take it in stride and end it as soon as possible. Sometimes that's a difficult thing for me to do.

Insights and incites by Notes
_________________________
Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
http://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks

Top
#450050 - 01/09/18 06:32 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Icelander Offline
Veteran

Registered: 11/11/12
Posts: 2841
Loc: Iceland
Wow,I feel a bit like having simply picked up a lose pebble and unleashed an avalanche! grin
_________________________
YT: www.youtube.com/user/MrIcelander
SC: https://soundcloud.com/eddie-icelander
Never finish what you can't start!
____________________________________________
BBox 2018 Audiophile, Mac Pro Intel, OSX 10.6.8, 800x600 (TV VGA)

Top
#450146 - 01/09/18 01:19 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Notes Norton Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/06/00
Posts: 4371
Loc: Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.
One thing leads to another wink
_________________________
Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
http://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks

Top
#450501 - 01/11/18 11:52 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5659
Ahhh yes... the dastardly "song sharks" of yester-year.

They are still out there with a different angle. They search the music posting sites, telling you how much they love your song. They will always tell you how good you are before they ask you for the money to "demo" the song. Many beginners, hearing how hard it is to get songs out, fall for the BS and get sucked in.

Many years ago I wrote a few co-writes with a guy who had a dozen boxes of records he got as a result of buying into the scam. His song was one of a dozen others on the record. Famous unknown writers from Nashville or some similar name is what they named the album. Supposedly sent "hundreds" of copies out to radio stations across America and I guarantee that not a single one ever got played one time.

I worked with what appeared to be a legit publisher. He used the Songwriter's guild song contracts..... once upon a time "THE" contract to sign for a single song. He signed 2 or 3 songs and had one set up to be recorded. Some time later, I got a contract from him that said essentially, he could make me a star in Nashville. There were 3 levels..... the $25k level, the $50k level and the practically guaranteed success level of $100k. They all involved sending him large sums of money for Nashville coaching, recording, writing sessions, and a few record company showcases. The contract was worded carefully so that you thought you were going to be the next big thing but the words weren't exactly saying that. Needless to say, I had a good laugh and filled the papers away chalking that one up to just another scam looking for a sucker with deep pockets.

Most of the scams want you to pay for the demo session to make your song sound professional. You have to wonder about the character of musicians who know they're working in such a studio. And it doesn't matter how sucky and amaturish (poorly written) your song is.... they will convince you, or at least try, that your song is so amazingly wonderful and destined to be song of the year, and win a grammy.......if you'll just send the money for this demo session.....


a few words to the wise:

Do legitimate publishers ever solicit songs through the mail or by advertisements? NO.
The legitimate publisher never solicits songs through the mail or by advertisement. As it is, the publisher is being besieged night and day by aspiring songwriters, both professional and amateur. If anything, he suffers from a superfluity of material. To solicit songs by mail or advertisement would only be adding to his troubles.

Will publishers pay any attention to songs "serviced" or submitted by song sharks? NO.
The only answer to this question is a quite definite "NO." The publisher is doing everything in his power to enlighten the general public about the activities of the song sharks and will do nothing that in any way might encourage their activities. If a song is submitted by a song shark, or if it shows that a song shark has had anything to do with its construction, the legitimate publisher will immediately throw it out.

Why is it not only foolish but dangerous to do business with song sharks?
The song shark operates on a "wholesale" basis. His profit lies in having his work turned out by "hackwriters" cheaply, quickly, and in great quantities. The "hackwriter," or arranger cannot possibly write an original melody for every "song poem" submitted, and often resorts to using parts of copyrighted or published works. If the owner of this "hack" composition should ever have it published or publicly performed, he would run great danger of being sued by the copyright owners on whose works his composition has infringed.

Where can a songwriter obtain information about song sharks?
Such information can be obtained by writing to the Music Publishers Protective Association, the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers, or The Song Writers Protective Association.


Edited by Guitarhacker (01/11/18 11:55 AM)
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
#450503 - 01/11/18 12:10 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
eddie1261 - gone Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4371
So I guess we can sum this up by saying this sounds fishy to EVERYBODY else.
_________________________
I have resigned my forum account. I will no longer be posting.

Top
#450509 - 01/11/18 12:36 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
90 dB Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4654
Loc: Florida
Sounds legit to me.




Colonel Bob Parker
PO Box 2
Happy Trails Motor Court
Muckoluski, OK.
_________________________
Dyslectics Untie!


https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/

https://soundcloud.com/90-db



Top
#450512 - 01/11/18 12:45 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
sslechta Offline
Expert

Registered: 12/27/13
Posts: 1194
Loc: St. Louis, MO. USA
Bob, you have any of those StarMaker machines left? I would like one.
_________________________


Steve

BIAB/RB 2018, Pro Tools 2018, Korg N5, Proteus F/X, JBL LSR 4328 Powered Monitors, AKG/Shure Mics.
PC: 1 TB SSD, 2 TB HD, 128 GB Memory

Top
#450528 - 01/11/18 02:32 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
90 dB Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/20/10
Posts: 4654
Loc: Florida
This is the company:


https://www.nextgenpromotions.org/


They can't really compete with The Starmaker Machine. grin


Regards,

Bob
_________________________
Dyslectics Untie!


https://90dbband.bandcamp.com/

https://soundcloud.com/90-db



Top
#450635 - 01/12/18 09:32 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Notes Norton Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/06/00
Posts: 4371
Loc: Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.
Oh my cod!

I thought of doing it for the halibut

then I said "oh crappie."
_________________________
Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
http://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks

Top
#450712 - 01/12/18 03:56 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Notes Norton]
eddie1261 - gone Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4371
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
Oh my cod!

I thought of doing it for the halibut

then I said "oh crappie."


Don't be koi, Notes, as you sit on your perch....
_________________________
I have resigned my forum account. I will no longer be posting.

Top
#450751 - 01/12/18 09:43 PM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: eddie1261 - gone]
VideoTrack Offline
Veteran

Registered: 06/05/12
Posts: 8105
Loc: Melbourne, Australia
Originally Posted By: eddie1261
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
Oh my cod!

I thought of doing it for the halibut

then I said "oh crappie."


Don't be koi, Notes, as you sit on your perch....

... practicing your Scales...
_________________________

BIAB, RB 2018(Audiophile), Sonar Platinum, Izotope Prod. Bundle, Roland RD-1000, Synthogy Ivory, Kontakt, Focusrite 18i20, KetronSD2, KorgX3R, RodeNGT2, AM802mixer, NS40M Studio Monitors, Pioneer Active Mons, AKG K271 Studio H'phones

Top
#450794 - 01/13/18 04:42 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Notes Norton Offline
Veteran

Registered: 07/06/00
Posts: 4371
Loc: Fort Pierce, Florida, U.S.A.
We're floundering in puns, but I think it's just a fluke.
_________________________
Bob "Notes" Norton smile Norton Music
http://www.nortonmusic.com

100% MIDI Super-Styles recorded by live, pro, studio musicians for a live groove
& Fake Disks for MIDI and/or RealTracks

Top
#450801 - 01/13/18 05:26 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
jford Offline
Veteran

Registered: 12/20/00
Posts: 10420
Loc: Pensacola, Florida

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/6l1GvDWtccI[/video]
_________________________
John

HP Win10Pro-64, 8GB
ASUS Win10Pro-64, 16GB
HP Win7Pro-64, 8GB

H/W-Behringer U-Phoria UMC404HD, Casio Kbds
S/W-BB/RB2018/Sonar/Reaper/Studio One/Samplitude/MixBus/Notion/Finale/Noteworthy/NI Komplete/Halion/Garritan/IK
Web-http://www.sus4chord.com

Top
#450843 - 01/13/18 08:50 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Notes Norton]
eddie1261 - gone Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/08/11
Posts: 4371
Originally Posted By: Notes Norton
We're floundering in puns, but I think it's just a fluke.


And to stay with the theme, I am listening to some old Salmon Dave.
_________________________
I have resigned my forum account. I will no longer be posting.

Top
#451291 - 01/15/18 11:03 AM [Off-Topic] Re: Does this smell fishy to anyone else? [Re: Icelander]
Guitarhacker Offline
Veteran

Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 5659
Then.... there's this:

Paramount

where no song is ever turned down if you have enough money for the demo session. contracts offered to everyone.

they have some nice reviews in the music scams web sites.....
_________________________
You can find my music at:
www.herbhartley.com

Add nothing that adds nothing to the music

Top
Page 2 of 2 < 1 2


PG Music News
Thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 - Mac Power Users Discussion

David Sparks and Katie Floyd discuss a variety of topics in their recent episide of Mac Power Users: https://www.relay.fm/mpu/432 - listen all the way through (and laugh along with them - it was a very entertaining episode!), or jump to 1:37:40 where David shares his thoughts on Band-in-a-Box® 2017 for Mac!

Thank you David and Katie!

Polish New Features Video for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows

Our Polish Distributor, Sound Station, has finished their Band-in-a-Box 2018 New Features summary video (in Polish!) - click here to watch.

We hope all our Polish Band-in-a-Box users find this video helpful - thank you Sound Station!

YouTube Find - Love it (with Band-in-a-Box 2018)

YouTube channel EmtpyHallToones uploaded a video of their guitar performance using Band-in-a-Box backing tracks!

Click here to watch.

Get to Know the 202 NEW RealTracks Released with Band-in-a-Box® 2018!

We released 202 NEW RealTracks with Band-in-a-Box® 2018! Learn more about these new RealTracks when you watch our video, Band-in-a-Box® 2018 - 202 NEW RealTracks.

These new RealTracks (in Sets 278-300) are included in every Band-in-a-Box® 2018 UltraPAK, Audiophile Edition, or the PlusPAK upgrade - the Mac packages are on sale until June 30th!

Learn even more about the new RealTracks and listen to demos here.

Vocal "Oohs" and "Aahs" RealTracks Tutorial Video for Mac

With Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac®, we've introduced Vocal "Oohs" and "Aahs" RealTracks. This video shows you the different ways you can use these versatile new RealTracks.

Video link: www.pgmusic.com/?vid=zkO-AtAPv4g

You can also listen to demos of RealTracks Set 278: Shiny Vocal Oohs & Aahs here.

This RealTracks Set is available for just $29, and is also included in RealPAK 14: Country, and the Band-in-a-Box® UltraPAK, Audiophile, or 2018 PlusPAK Upgrade.

Video RealTracks for Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac - Special Pricing Until June 30th!

With the recent Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac release, we also released Video RealTracks Sets!

Video RealTracks allow you to see the RealTracks artist playing that track - you can use them just like any other RealTrack, and you can generate a video which will display the musician playing your song exactly as you hear it. You can also include a chord sheet or notation in the video.

We've added Video RealTracks Set 1: Pop Ballad Band to our Free Bonus PAK included in Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac packages during our release special (which ends June 30th!).
Video RealTracks Set 2: Country TrainBeat Band is included in the 2018 49-PAK, along with 40 Bonus UNRELEASED RealTracks, 22 MIDI SuperTracks, 101 Instrumental Studies, and Artist Performance Set 8: Traditional Songs Sung by Béatrix Méthé.

SPECIAL OFFER: During our Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac release special, purchase our "Video RealTracks Set 3-6 Special Bundle Offer" to complete your purchase with the remaining Video RealTracks Sets for the low price of just $49! Learn more.

Learn more about the new Video RealTracks and see them in action: http://www.pgmusic.com/?vid=fzkX6jO_hW4

Band-in-a-Box® Version 2018 is a HIT!

Since the release Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Mac, we've received some great feedback!

"The added Piano Roll Window is... WONDERFUL!"
"Adding the Piano Roll Window is a BIG DEAL - thanks PG Music!"
"This significantly changes how I will use Band-in-a-Box in the future."
"And yet again you manage to come up with styles and instruments that we absolutely must have!"
"Great to have the Oohs and Ahhs RealTracks!"
"The RealTracks are worth their weight in gold to me. They really are an amazing invention for music creators."
"Just tonight popped together a quick video using one of the new video styles. Must say the whole process worked without a hitch so this really does look like a great new feature. And what a great teaching aid! "
"Such a comprehensive source for music making!"
"THIS IS EXCITING!"
"The new Audio Chord Wizard is my favorite new feature!"
"This should be great for creating backing tracks for covers."
"Oh wow. This has got to be the coolest enhancement in Band-in-a-Box 2018. This is so-o-o powerful. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!"
"A brilliant piece of software!"
"What a release!!!"
"THEY DO NO PAY ME BUT if you don't own this you are crazy."
"Been using Band in a Box for years!! Great product for composing. I absolutely love the background vocals in Band-in-a-Box 2018."
"My compliments to the PG Music team who have once again have delivered an incredible collection of new styles and RealTracks to Band-in-a-Box this year!"
"There is still so much to explore and work with!"
"Love the new Video RealTracks!"
"The mixer included into the StylePicker is a great addition."
"Recent retirement and the 2018 version of BIAB is a perfect combination!!"
"The XTRA Styles are fantastic... any future idle music-related minutes I may have had are now totally gone... gonna find that perfect background rhythm on just about every one of my favorites!!!"
"I bought this Band-in-a-Box 2018 and I love it , it is amazing to work with!!!!!"
"...it's educational utility and the potential is awesome!!!"
"I must say, the new harmony options in particular have me chomping at the bit!"
"This will give my students a great overview of what's going on in an arrangement with the different instruments.!!!"
"A musician must have."
"Lovin' the new RealTracks!!!"
"This is amazing software!"
"Thank you for a wonderful tool for both musicians and singers - I can never say enough about this amazingly versatile product!"

Forum Stats
27612 Members
50 Forums
52202 Topics
432018 Posts

Max Online: 2434 @ 11/14/17 12:37 AM
Newest Members
annzpdas01, drummingsteve, MichLeon, dave1990, mucheyielts2018

27612 Registered Users
Top Posters (30 Days)
Icelander 190
Noel96 165
David Snyder 151
Janice & Bud 136
Pipeline 110
rsdean 105
eddie1261 - gone 103
Deryk - PG Music 100
Scott C 96
cliftond 91
Today's Birthdays
paulgermana